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To: kcpopps
There is a similar story in Kansas City this week. A young woman with a child in a private Christian school was discovered to be employed in a strip club and her child was expelled from the school.

I still fail to see what this has to do with the child.

Out Christian school is expanding to add an extra grade and we are looking to increase enrollment. At a Board Meeting, we were going down the list of children that were graduating from another private elementary school to see which children may attend our Christian middle school.

When one child's name came up, someone said that she would not be a candidate because "her parents are hard core atheists". I pointed out that such a child is precisely the child that a Christian school may want to go out of it's way to recruit.

The school is there for the children. Not the parents. The children.

23 posted on 05/18/2002 10:15:28 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius
The problem is that anything YOU do is going to be completely undermined by the parents, and it will cause division within the school in the meantime.
25 posted on 05/18/2002 10:16:57 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Polybius
You make a good point about ministering to the child, and I'm sure that's the way many, if not most religious schools view things.

The problem with this story is that this school decided upon certain rules and were completely upfront with them. If you don't like the school's rules, go somewhere else (as the woman is doing) and don't try to impose your morality (or immorality) upon the school. I wouldn't qualify for enrolling my kids, and I'm not the least offended by that fact. To each his own.

30 posted on 05/18/2002 10:24:23 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: Polybius
I pointed out that such a child is precisely the child that a Christian school may want to go out of it's way to recruit. The school is there for the children. Not the parents. The children.

Very well said.

38 posted on 05/18/2002 10:32:53 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: Polybius
bump your wise post.
44 posted on 05/18/2002 10:38:54 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Polybius
"I pointed out that such a child is precisely the child that a Christian school may want to go out of it's way to recruit."

I tend to agree with you. The mothers in both cases at least seem to care enough about their children to put them in a private christian school. I'm not sure the child should be punished for the parents questionable behavior - maybe they should be ministered to instead of expelled.

52 posted on 05/18/2002 10:53:27 PM PDT by kcpopps
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To: Polybius
When one child's name came up, someone said that she would not be a candidate because "her parents are hard core atheists". I pointed out that such a child is precisely the child that a Christian school may want to go out of it's way to recruit. The school is there for the children. Not the parents. The children.

How in the world can you recruit the child of "hard core atheists" for a Christian school?

I don't like "recruiting" children against the will or philosophy of their parents. I don't like it when atheists do it, not when communists do it, not when homosexuals do it, not when Democrats do it, and not when Christians do it.

91 posted on 05/18/2002 11:45:02 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: Polybius
Nice post Polybius....I've been following this asinine situation for a few days now....you are one of the few to recognize that the little girl is what matters most. Who cares what her mothers job involves..this little girl belongs in church, and anyone who things otherwise, is simply wrong...
121 posted on 05/19/2002 12:08:46 AM PDT by redhawk
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To: Polybius
But you see, not all schools are "there for the children". Some schools exist to aid the parents in providing an appropriate environment and Christian education for their children. Not all parents view their church school as fertile mission soil for other people's children. It is up to the parents in the church to decide what is the mission of the school.

I homeschool to keep my children innocent, and cannot condemn parents for attempting to create a more innocent environment for their children through their church school. We left public school because we didn't want to hear about Heather's two mommies, and Joey's two daddies, and dare I say, stripper mom's lifestyle. The kids are only five!

213 posted on 05/19/2002 7:15:31 AM PDT by joathome
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To: Polybius
**The school is there for the children. Not the parents. The children. **

Ahhh...but will the atheists sign the Christian school Mission Statement and uphold it?

218 posted on 05/19/2002 7:57:17 AM PDT by homeschool mama
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To: Polybius
The school is there for the children. Not the parents. The children.

Your school is. Or, more precisely, you believe that school should focus completely upon the child (or so I take your words). That is a valid viewpoint. But others may choose a different view: that the family is as much a part of the picture as the child...or nearly as much. That is also a valid viewpoint, IMO.

It comes down to a matter of choice by the individual school and explains why I like private schools and loathe public ones: Private schools offer more variety in settings, outlooks, and curriculum. Parents have more choice and everyone can end up getting more or less what they want out of a school.

I've not defended the mother: not because she is a stripper, but because she signed an agreement and broke it, then made a fuss over it when the results of her actions came home to roost. The actual policy of the school is not the point, IMO, but whether the mother agreed to the policy in the first place, which she admits to have done.

The policy itself is a seperate issue, and one that we here have only an academic interest in, as none of us have any children attending the school (that I know of). Evidently, enough people agree with the school's policies to keep it financially solvent. More power to them...but if I had a kid, I wouldn't send him or her there.

Tuor

221 posted on 05/19/2002 8:06:00 AM PDT by Tuor
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To: Polybius
"When one child's name came up, someone said that she would not be a candidate because "her parents are hard core atheists. I pointed out that such a child is precisely the child that a Christian school may want to go out of it's way to recruit." yeah--then her parents will sue to have prayer taken out of that school... or Christianity altogether...
225 posted on 05/19/2002 8:22:45 AM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: Polybius
The school is there for the children. Not the parents. The children.

I would like to agree with you on this because on the surface it sounds like the right thing to do. But I can't. The parents are still the primary influence on the child and that child is going to bring his/her beliefs and upbringing into the school and influence the other children, whose parents are paying a lot of tuition to remove them from that influence in public schools. I'm dealing with this issue as we speak. My daughter's best friend is not from a Christian home but was allowed into the school while her mom served out her jail sentence and b/c she was living with a Godly aunt and uncle. This girl deceives everyone at school and is just the kind of person I spend a LOT of tuition for my child to avoid.

I agree with you that the ministry of the church is to reach out to sinners--all of us--regardless of the sin. This mom should be cared for and ministered to by the church, but her lifestyle should not enter the school via her child. God gives us the responsibility to bring up our children the way they should go and I do not believe that means co-mingling them with worldly children until they have acquired the maturity and wisdom to address those issues.

326 posted on 05/20/2002 9:23:09 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Polybius
The school is there for the children. Not the parents. The children.

No, it's mostly there for the parents, as a means of helping them raise their children in particular way.

But the reason I'm really responding is this.

Here you've got this lovely stripper, dropping her kid off in the morning, picking her up at night. She's gorgeous (she really is), and she makes her living on sex. Such things interest men despite their better judgement.

That's just plain poison -- one can reasonably assume she has a less-than-innocent effect on some of the fathers at the school. It's difficult enough to avoid the temptation to look where you shouldn't when you can't smell her perfume.

It's rotten that the little girl has to pay the price for her mother's occupation; however, this one child isn't the only one affected, nor the only one potentially harmed, by her mother's activities.

It sounds like the church tried its best to alleviate the situation. Unfortunately, the mother was unwilling to negotiate -- the stripping money was too good. The church pretty much had to make the decision they did, based on what would do the least damage.

330 posted on 05/20/2002 10:22:04 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Polybius
The school may be there for the children, but the atheist parents would be nothing but trouble, unless they sign an agreement to allow and support the Christian training in your school.
341 posted on 05/21/2002 7:12:34 AM PDT by Eva
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