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India makes final preparations for attack on Pakistan
Pakistan News Service ^ | 2002-05-20 01:38:37

Posted on 05/19/2002 3:33:45 PM PDT by maquiladora

NEW DELHI, India: (Pakistan Nation Wire) Indian government has initiated their final preparation for an attack on Pakistan it is reliably learnt from news sources in India.

In an offensive posture following War Time SOP the Indian government has transferred the command of its paramilitary and civilian law enforcement outfits from the civilian command to military command.

The Indian Border Security Force and Border Patrol is now under the Indian Army command, Coast Guard has been assigned to the Naval Command, and the Command and Control infrastructure has be transferred from the ministry of defense to Central Military Command.

India is also currently debating on scrapping the Indus water treaty, which would mean a definite precursor to a very bloody war as in the past three wars between India and Pakistan all treaties including the most critical Indus water treaty, was honored by both nations.

Defense analysts predict, that India has pushed it self to a point of no return and in order to divert international pressure from the crisis at home and genocide in Gujurat and Kashmir a war with Pakistan is a must.

In the past fifty years India has mounted a full-scale war against Pakistan at least three times. Analysts also predict that based on past Indian attacks, if India is to attack Pakistan it would be carried out during mid-night hours.


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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Its been reported that India has grounded 300 Mig21s due to age, lack of spares and pilot proficency. If this equipment situation leads to India selecting the nuclear option, then we're all in deep kimshee!

I'll bet that Al Quaida knows where Pakistan keeps it's nucs and any hostility will give them a chance to try an nab one or more. We need to keep an eye on this situation.

101 posted on 05/19/2002 9:35:35 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: Siobhan
I am familiar with all sides in these conflicts.

Really? And you bad-mouth the BJP? Why?

102 posted on 05/19/2002 9:40:24 PM PDT by keri
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To: keri
Perhaps you should do your homework as I said earlier in this thread about the siks(sp?) and christians that have suffered very brutal ends at the hands of the extremist hindus which are in power now.
103 posted on 05/19/2002 9:52:26 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Young Werther
They may have grounded some mig-21s...actually yes, they have. However they just got state of the art russian Su-33's, and have deals with russia to coat them with Radar absorbent materials.

India is militarily superior to Pakistan, both in sheer quantity and quality. And lack of conventional weaponry is really not an indian problem but actually a Pakistani one. India has the latest Russian and French aircraft, and not the 'export' versions like the Mig-29's Iraq had during the gulf war that lacked modern combat suites, but variants that are have the latest radar and weapon systems. India also has a British made aircraft carrier with Harrier jets (like the ones used by the US marines and the British Navy). And to top this India's strong economy allows it to continually develop its arsenal, as opposed to Pakistan that has been having some problems due to its reliance on the volatile textile industry.

So, if India does attack Pakistan using nukes it will not be due to a lack of a conventional alternative. India could literally CRUSH Pakistan on any given day...it just hasn't done so because of several reasons. One it is not comprised of blood thirsty kooks like Pakistan is, and secondly Pakistan could use its nukes against India. (If Pakistan did do that it would be destroyed by India's retaliation in approximately 15 minutes. Totally destroyed, as opposed to India getting about half its area radiologically contaminated. However India does not deem it necessary to risk even part of it getting nuked).

However the fact still remains that should Pakistan try to attack India with conventional weapons, Pakistan would be vanquished easily. And should Pakistan stupidly try a nuclear method it would be wiped from the face of the earth.

104 posted on 05/19/2002 9:57:05 PM PDT by spetznaz
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Is this why Pakistan helped us with the Afghanistan project? Maybe they want us to defend them against India.
105 posted on 05/19/2002 10:03:36 PM PDT by CoolH2OH
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To: Almondjoy
No, you were talking about the BJP. Or in your mind does that equal "hindu-extremists"?

Btw, what Sikhs? I've done my home-work.

106 posted on 05/19/2002 10:07:35 PM PDT by keri
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To: Almondjoy
It is true that some Sikhs and indeed some Christians have been met with persecution from some Hindus in the some of the more remote areas of India. However this is definitely not the norm, and in india there are a lot of Christians.

And if you read the first sentence you will notice a key word was 'some.' Now go to Pakistan and try to find whether this is the case. There 'most' people who adhere to another faith, or do not believe in the 'purity of Islam,' face real danger. And i am not saying just in the remote areas of Pakistan but also in the main cities like Karachi and Islamabad. Wasn't it just last month several Americans were killed while worshipping in a church in Pakistan?

If you look hard enough you can find atrocities commited anywhere in the world. Even in the US. Also in India. However the numbers involved are few, and the perpetrators are a small group with crazy ideals. However in Pakistan and other Islamic nations the atrocities are many, done everyday (eg in Pakistan a raped woman who accuses a man for her violation can only do this on a ratio of 2 to 1, that is for 1 man to be convicted 2 women have to accuse him since a woman has less 'moral weight' than men. And on top of this the woman may be punished for 'enticing' the man to rape her). Also the extermists in Pakistan are so prevalent that it isn't funny (and if you dount me you can do a simple experiment of going to Karachi and staying in a small hotel for a week by yourself. And not in the areas populated by Westerners but in the 'real' pakistan, the one that is not glossed over with a sugar coating. If you last a week you have a strong guardian angel. In India the most you have to worry with is your occasional thug or robber....but in Pakistan you run the whole gamut from Robbers to the more malignant terrorists, anti-american activists with a point to prove, or just a local guy trying to follow his cleric's appeal for everyone to strike against the 'great Infidel America.'). Thus make it a week in such areas in Pakistan, and you have a lot to be thankful of. (And i emphasized the areas that are not frequented by Westerners, so if you spent months in Karachi living in safe areas do not write me back!)

107 posted on 05/19/2002 10:09:58 PM PDT by spetznaz
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To: CoolH2OH
Pakistan is like Arafat and the PA. They claim that they are innocents and the support the US, then the turn and in Arabic spout forth obscenities against the US. Two-forked tongued hypocrites.
108 posted on 05/19/2002 10:11:31 PM PDT by spetznaz
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To: Siobhan
I believe that such an expression of Islam must be opposed and annhilated both intellectually, diplomatically, and militarily.

There are elements within Islam that should receive assistance in opposing Wahhabism. The most important thing is to cut off Saudi financial underwriting of Wahhabism all around the world including the United States of America.

Understood. Seems to me that the World would be better off if your views were widely accepted and practiced. Why is it that the majority of Muslims in the USA (not to mention the World) are silent on this account?

109 posted on 05/19/2002 10:14:43 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Kerberos
here's something from Globe-Intel

**Globe-Intel**

NEWSBREAKS…ANALYSIS… COMMENTARY

Editor-in-Chief Number 75 Carol Adler May 17, 2002 Contributing Editors Gordon Thomas Contributing Writers Mark Dankof…David McGowan…Joseph Ehrlich… John Kusumi… Tariq Saeedi…Takashi “Thomas” Tanemori

INDIA BEHIND MURDER OF FRENCH ENGINEERS, OBSERVERS OPINE

MOSSAD INSTRUCTIONS: “GET THE ASSASSINS OF DANNY PEARL” by Tariq Saeedi in Ashbabat and Sergi Pyatakov in Moscow

Western European and Russian observers have stated that in all likelihood India may have engineered the recent brutal killing of French engineers in Karachi who were overseeing construction of Khalid class (Agosta B90) submarines.

“Only India stands to benefit from this massacre [of French engineers],” said a western European diplomat based in Central Asia.

When asked to explain his point of view, he said, “India has recently concluded agreement to build six Scorpene class French submarines. First of these submarines will be ready in 2006 and till that time India has no way to counter the sub-surface superiority of Pakistan's Agosta [submarines]. Moreover, the Indian shipbuilding industry is in no shape to undertake construction of submarines right away.

“It will be at least 2 to 3 years before India can update its shipbuilding facilities to begin construction of Scorpene. India will benefit immensely if the [submarine] construction programme of Pakistan is thwarted.”

A similar view with a new twist was expressed by Genandy Kamarov (not his real name), a retired officer of KGB. He said, “Forgive my perverted mind if I see sinister designs where there may be none.

“But the Karachi incident smacks of RAW-MOSSAD connection.”

Kamarov explained that according to his own sources, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon called in Mossad director Ephraim Halevy in the third week of February and gave “precise instructions” to “get the assassins of Danny Pearl.”

According to Kamarov's theory, “precise instructions” to get Pearl's killers include close collaboration with RAW because Pakistan is one of the few countries where Israel does not have an effective network of its own.

Referring to a recent incident in which an American “free lance journalist” was detained at a Karachi airport because he was carrying a video film showing the entrance gate of Karachi central prison, Kamarov said someone high up intervened and procured release of the “journalist” and the video.

Why the video of main entrance of Karachi jail, asked Kamarov. Is it part of Israeli plan to get at killers of Pearl?

Elaborating on his theory, Kamarov said, “It is the first time since 1972 that an Israeli prime minister has issued direct orders to get at assassins of a Jew. Now, there are reasons to assume that RAW and MOSSAD are working jointly to get at Pearl's killers. Pearl, before his kidnapping, was staying with an Indian lady in Karachi who had been denied a Pakistani visa but somehow managed to get it, and came over to Karachi.

“The same Indian lady intervened for the release of the American journalist who was carrying a video of the Karachi jail.

“What is the connection between Pearl and this other American journalist -- and who is that Indian lady?

“Now, remember that in the shadowy world of espionage and betrayal, there are no friends and no enemies. We all have our jobs to do and we work without emotion, in cold blood.

“If RAW is helping Mossad get the Pearl killers, RAW will want something in return. That ‘something’ can be a workable plan to halt Pakistani submarine plans because at the moment Indian armed forces are superior to Pakistan in every respect but one: they don't have anything to counter the threat posed by Agosta submarines.”

For all intent and purpose, it appears that Kamarov's theory stands on solid ground because the Karachi massacre seems to have achieved a heavy blow to Pakistan's Agosta 90B submarine programme. By extension, it has also caused a substantial damage to Pakistan's economy in terms of investors’ confidence. No one but India stands to gain from this tragedy.

Kamarov added: “Indians cannot hope to get their Scorpene submarines till 2006 and they will do everything to prevent Pakistan from getting an edge over India in terms of sub-surface vessels till that time.”

Tariq Saeedi is a Pakistani journalist based in Turkmenistan for the past four years. He writes for the Balochistan Post, www.balochistanpost.com

For archived Globe-Intel issues, click on www.topica.com/lists/gordonthomas/read

110 posted on 05/20/2002 1:00:49 AM PDT by dglang
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To: The Great Satan
ping
111 posted on 05/20/2002 1:00:58 AM PDT by Nogbad
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To: Almondjoy
You are mixing the BJP up with Siv Sena or RSS. The BJP has not slaughtered anybody. Get a grip.
112 posted on 05/20/2002 6:17:22 AM PDT by BullDog108
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To: dglang
Tariq Saeedi is a Pakistani journalist based in Turkmenistan for the past four years.

'nuff said.

113 posted on 05/20/2002 6:30:53 AM PDT by BullDog108
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To: dglang
Yes. Apart from blowing up the French and killing Pearl, the Paks also say Indians are responsible for all the other attacks and killings in Pakistan. What's more, the Indians are known to blow up their own parliament, kill their own citizens and attack their own military personnel in Kashmir.

If murder can get one into paradise, lying and deception must score some extra points.

114 posted on 05/20/2002 8:23:28 AM PDT by mikeIII
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To: BullDog108
BJP is an offshoot of the RSS or is it the name of the coalition? I forget.. either way what about Gurjat? I mean hell it was the other parties in their parliment that made the BJP restore order.. the BJP was perfectly happy letting Gurjat go up in flames as long as the Muslims were suffering most of the causalties.
115 posted on 05/20/2002 2:19:47 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Almondjoy
What about Gujarat? Blaming Gujarat on the BJP is akin to blaming the Rodney King Riots on the President. Go study up some more on India, or perhaps visit the country. As of now, you are clueless.
116 posted on 05/20/2002 2:31:20 PM PDT by BullDog108
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To: BullDog108
OHHHHHHH Ok.. hmm let's see.. the police admitted to letting the rioting continue unabated.. the indian parliment almost had a riot of it's own over the arguing about Gurjat. I'm clueless.. you need to pay attention more.
117 posted on 05/20/2002 4:43:46 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Siobhan
I do not choose the Paks over the Indians or the Muslims over the Hindus. Supporting either side is insane.

Kind of like choosing Iran or Iraq 20 years ago.

118 posted on 05/20/2002 5:08:31 PM PDT by edsheppa
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To: Siobhan
I do not choose the Paks over the Indians or the Muslims over the Hindus. Supporting either side is insane.

Kind of like choosing Iran or Iraq 20 years ago.

119 posted on 05/20/2002 5:08:35 PM PDT by edsheppa
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
My sentiments exactly. The week started well, with a rollback of Islam in East Timor. I hope India goes for it!
120 posted on 05/20/2002 7:25:10 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep
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