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To: kattracks
Never mind that the Bishop refused Communion to Homosexuals with sashes making a political Statament, How about the facts stated by Sipe and Cozzens in their books that the priesthood is as much as 50 % Homosexual.

In a survey by a priest of 50 Homosexual Priests, Sipe states "that only 4 were celebate, 10% had more than 10 sexual Partners and 22% had 500 Sexual Partners or more".

Are We to presume that it is OK for these Homosexual priests to be on the Alter celebrating Mass with all that is implied.

Our whole idea of right and wrong is upside down.

No one Knows who of these people are celebate and who are not, unless major changes are made, the Church is in for a long Dark period.

How can any Homosexuals be allowed to be Priests much less 50% of the total.

12 posted on 05/20/2002 4:37:55 AM PDT by chatham
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To: chatham
Never mind that the Bishop refused Communion to Homosexuals with sashes making a political Statament, How about the facts stated by Sipe and Cozzens in their books that the priesthood is as much as 50 % Homosexual.

100% of the Catholics I surveyed (myself) think that number is bovine excrement

13 posted on 05/20/2002 4:54:07 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: chatham
How about the facts stated by Sipe and Cozzens in their books that the priesthood is as much as 50 % Homosexual.

Those are estimates, not facts. If Cozzens is basing his estimate on his experience while running St. Mary's Seminary and he did nothing to expel homosexual seminarians, thus violating the 1961 Vatican decree against ordaining homosexuals, then he is part of the problem and should be defrocked himself.

How can any Homosexuals be allowed to be Priests much less 50% of the total.

The Vatican formally stated in 1961 that homosexuals are not to be ordained. Those bishops who have thumbed their nose at the Vatican should be defrocked. Why do you keep capitalizing the word homosexual?

15 posted on 05/20/2002 5:57:45 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: chatham, catholicguy
How can any Homosexuals be allowed to be Priests much less 50% of the total.

A: Liberal Seminaries

16 posted on 05/20/2002 6:34:06 AM PDT by Clemenza
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To: chatham
In a survey by a priest of 50 Homosexual Priests, Sipe states "that only 4 were celebate, 10% had more than 10 sexual Partners and 22% had 500 Sexual Partners or more".

The communion issue shouldn't be complicated. If you are a chaste homosexual, or one who has sought forgiveness and truly repented from past homosexual activity, then you should be given communion. If you are promoting or condoning sin (i.e., homosexual activity), then you shouldn't. These people in Australia are fighting for acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle (rampant homosexual activity). As such, communion should be denied. - But then, the same should hold true for priests. An active unrepentant homosexual priest should not be allowed to carry out his priestly duties, and should not be given communion. The Church needs to 1) root out homosexually active priests (maybe 20-30% of the priesthood?), 2) make it clear to those lay people who are homosexually active or who are supporting those who are that they are sinning, 3) over time, reduce the number of homosexual (chaste) priests to the percentage in the population as a whole (2,3%), or lower, 4) never allow priests to be alone with children, 5) have zero tolerance for child abuse.

19 posted on 05/20/2002 6:55:01 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: chatham; Catholicguy
The book is unsubstantiated and completely without merit. Even a Protestant psychologist who did a research project on homosexuality and pedophila in the priesthood said that AT THE MOST it was 6%, but likely 2-4%.

However, homosexuals tend to be far more promisicuous as a group and tend to have far more sexual partners than heterosexuals outside of marriage, and therefore it seems like the number is far higher because each of the homosexual priests claimed a greater number of victims.

May God purify His church and lead us to repent. God bless.

40 posted on 05/20/2002 9:18:27 AM PDT by Gophack
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