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To: johnqueuepublic
The schism originated because the Eastern church would not recognize Jesus as part of the Godhead, the filioque clause inserted into the Nicene Creed caused the Eastern church to separate itself because they could not accept the Holy Spirit coming both from God and his Son.

I'm not Orthodox, but this is misrepresenting the Orthodox view of the divinity of Jesus Christ.

I don't want to put words in their mouths, but it's possible to argue that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father through the Son, and also hold that the Son is 'one in substance with the Father'.

Any more comment by me on the procession of the Holy Spirit will probably raise howls of laughter from my theological betters.
44 posted on 05/21/2002 12:34:19 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Mike Fieschko
Anything is possible, the rift consisted of much more than the insertion of the filioquim into the Nicene Creed, it had to do with papal authority and Im sure a bunch of other stuff that seemed important at the time.
49 posted on 05/21/2002 12:43:22 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: Mike Fieschko; johnqueuepublic
misrepresenting the Orthodox view of the divinity of Jesus Christ.

I believe you are right. The "filoque" was objected to by the Orthodox not because of a perceived defective Christology, but because it was a substantial edit of the original creed, that Rome undertook on its own. The objection to the very notion that the Creed could be altered allowed the Orthodox church to position itself as just that, orthodox.

51 posted on 05/21/2002 12:48:32 PM PDT by annalex
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To: Mike Fieschko; johnqueuepublic; Romulus
A more substantive disagreement from the Christology point of view was the absence of original sin in the Virgin Mary. I heard the Orthodox consider that as taking away from the fully human (as well as fully divine) nature of Christ.
56 posted on 05/21/2002 1:14:19 PM PDT by annalex
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