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Do We Want Democracy?
Jewish World Review ^ | 5/22/2002 | Walter Williams

Posted on 05/23/2002 2:07:24 PM PDT by Macaw

What's so good about democracy -- generally understood as having trust in the general will of a democratic people, as expressed by a vote of the majority, to make all important decisions? If a majority of our 535 congressmen votes for one measure or another, is that all right with you?

You say: "What's the story, Williams? Is there a better method of making important decisions?" I say yes, but let's first decide whether we'd really like majority rule as a criterion for making important decisions.

Suppose you're making the important decision to marry. Would you like the decision about whom you marry to be made through a democratic procedure where what the majority of Americans think determines whom you marry? How about using the democratic process to decide what we have for Thanksgiving dinner? Majority rule determines whether everyone has turkey, or ham, or duck, or capon. Once the vote is taken and, say, turkey wins, everyone is obliged to serve turkey.

You say, "C'mon Williams, when people say they're for democracy, they don't mean private decisions!" You're probably right. Indeed, if democratic procedures were applied to those private areas of our lives, we'd see it as nothing less than tyranny. That's one important problem with democracy: It creates an aura of moral legitimacy for acts that would otherwise be considered tyranny.

That's precisely why our Founders thought a Bill of Rights was a crucial protection. Thomas Jefferson said, "The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society." So we should ask what life decisions should and should not be made through the political process.

Should a democratic process determine how much I put aside out of my weekly earnings for food? What about housing? What about for my daughter's education? You say, "Williams, that's your business and none other." Then I ask why it isn't also my business how much of my weekly earnings is set aside for retirement. In our country, how much is set aside for retirement is, as Jefferson might put it, criminally determined by Congress through Social Security laws.

Democracy was viewed with disgust by most of the nation's founders. Alexander Hamilton said: "We are now forming a Republican form of government. Real liberty is not found in the extremes of democracy, but in moderate governments. If we incline too much to democracy, we shall soon shoot into a monarchy, or some other form of dictatorship."

In Federalist Paper 10, arguing for a constitutional republic, James Madison said, "... democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

John Adams said: "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."

U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall said, "Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos."

The observation about democracy that I like best was that of H.L. Mencken: "Democracy is a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses."

When the Founders thought of democracy, they saw democracy in the political sphere -- a sphere strictly limited by the Constitution's well-defined and enumerated powers given the federal government. Substituting democratic decision-making for what should be private decision-making is nothing less than tyranny dressed up.


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KEYWORDS: democracy; jefferson; walterwilliams; walterwilliamslist
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I absolutely love this man.
1 posted on 05/23/2002 2:07:25 PM PDT by Macaw
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To: Macaw
I don't want the rule of Jackals by Jackasses myself.

democracy: "a government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meetings or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude towards property is communistic-negative property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. It results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy."

U.S. Army Training Manual( around 1928)

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most from the public treasury with the results that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by dictatorship." - Alexander Tyler

2 posted on 05/23/2002 2:14:03 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Macaw
You've just GOT to love Walter Williams!! He's not afraid to lay it on the line and he's right on from a Constitutional point of view at least 99% of the time.

"....a Republic, madam, if you can keep it" - Ben Franklin

Sadly, we haven't done very well at "keeping it" and now can't seem to figure out how to get it back.

3 posted on 05/23/2002 2:26:59 PM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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To: Macaw
If I was dictator for a day, I might make everyone spend that day reading Dr. Williams.
4 posted on 05/23/2002 2:27:33 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: weikel
".......the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most from the public treasury..."

Whoa, can't let that happen.

Oops! What do we do now?

Seriously though; this has been going on for generations now. Conservatism seems to be gaining momentum in this country but is it enough to turn the tide? How far can the pendulum swing before it must turn back the other way? Must we devolve into anarchy or despotism and revolution to recreate what the founders envisioned?

5 posted on 05/23/2002 2:29:27 PM PDT by Chuckster
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To: Chuckster
Conservatives have picked up steam ever since Woodrow Wilson and his commie pals messed up this country about 3 times in the 1920's, the 50's and 80's and now to a lesser degree now. But its always been a reactionary reflex to what liberals have done already and has never been able to reverse completely the damage liberals have done to freedom and capitalism. Its a slow degeneration the pendulum in its swing back to the right never swings quite as far as the previous swing leftward.
6 posted on 05/23/2002 2:39:22 PM PDT by weikel
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
I could do a lot as dictator for a day I'd destroy all vestiges of socialism in that one day.
7 posted on 05/23/2002 2:40:10 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Macaw
Long live the Republic.
8 posted on 05/23/2002 2:41:25 PM PDT by veracious
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To: Macaw
BUMP
9 posted on 05/23/2002 2:48:02 PM PDT by LiberalBuster
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To: weikel
See, it works like this--when the Democrats win, it gets worse and when the Repubbys win, it don't get no better.
10 posted on 05/23/2002 2:54:55 PM PDT by edger
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To: Macaw
Back in the beginning of the 90's I remember Jimmy Rogers making the point in his book Investment Biker that Democracy isn't what brings prosperity. This was back at the time when our leaders were expounding on the virtues of Democracy for Eastern Europe. Democracy doesn't promote prosperity, freedom and property rights do.
11 posted on 05/23/2002 2:57:30 PM PDT by eraser X
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To: weikel
Yea, I hear you. But there's a part of me that says, if people can't read someone like Walter Williams and "get it", then screw 'em
12 posted on 05/23/2002 2:58:45 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: Macaw
Being a monarchist, I am fundamentally opposed to democratic forms of government. Any King but King Mob!

Monarchism FAQ

13 posted on 05/23/2002 2:59:05 PM PDT by B-Chan
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To: edger
Basically that sums it up Republicans merely slow the expansion of the government they don't stop it or god forbid reverse it.
14 posted on 05/23/2002 3:00:20 PM PDT by weikel
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To: weikel
I could do a lot as dictator for a day I'd destroy all vestiges of socialism in that one day.

I wonder, as President, could someone issue an executive order and, say, outlaw the IRS, send the Toons into exile or make English the official language?

15 posted on 05/23/2002 3:02:43 PM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: Razz Barry
It depends how much the army likes you.
16 posted on 05/23/2002 3:13:54 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Macaw
In a democracy of one chicken and two foxes, guess what's for dinner?
17 posted on 05/23/2002 3:15:38 PM PDT by mconder
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To: *Walter Williams list
*Index Bump
18 posted on 05/23/2002 3:17:29 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: Macaw
I guess the real question is who or what defines the principles that define a republic? What is the purpose of just government? These questions seem to be best answered by humble supplication to The Creator, which I believe is exactly what happened when the founders sought God's advice in the creation of this republic. How can there be any dispute that what the founders penned as our constitution was really just a recognition of devine law?
20 posted on 05/23/2002 3:22:12 PM PDT by mconder
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