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The Daschle 50
http://www.gopteamleader.com | 5/24/2002 | "Jack Oliver, Deputy Chairman, RNC" <eLeader@mail.echampions2000.com> +my own comments

Posted on 05/25/2002 1:27:37 PM PDT by pulaskibush

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To: pulaskibush
I think Tommy Dascle is a wholly owned subsidiary of Hillary Inc.
21 posted on 05/28/2002 5:15:39 AM PDT by SF Geo
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22 posted on 05/28/2002 5:20:12 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave
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To: pulaskibush
I thought the title,The Daschle 50, referred to the other democrat lemmings in the Senate.

My mistake.

23 posted on 05/28/2002 5:22:47 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: okie01
Don Nickles (R-OK) has already announced his intention "to challenge Lott for the leadership" when the Senate is organized after the 2002 elections.

I didn't know this.This brought about my first smile of the day.I would be happy w/ anyone except Trent 'I'm going to stay here my whole life cause I can't do anything else' Lott.Thanks for mentioning this,you've made my day.I also need to find out who Dasschles Republican opponent is,which won't be hard.Supporting that human is a fine way to spend my money.

24 posted on 05/28/2002 11:28:47 AM PDT by Pagey
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To: leadpenny
It could go with that, too!
25 posted on 05/28/2002 11:29:40 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Pagey
"I also need to find out who Dasschles Republican opponent is,which won't be hard.Supporting that human is a fine way to spend my money."

Daschle won't be running in the 2002 election. Instead, his Democrat lackey, incumbent Sen. Tim Johnson, will be on the ballot in South Dakota. He'll be challenged by the state's sole Congressman, John Thune. I'm sure Thune -- and the people of South Dakota -- would appreciate your help.

Daschle's term will be up in 2004. We can thrash his sorry butt then.

26 posted on 05/28/2002 1:52:30 PM PDT by okie01
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To: okie01
Daschle's term will be up in 2004. We can thrash his sorry butt then.

Ah yes,it IS 2004.My mistake.I've never done this before,but I will absolutely contribute to the opponents fund in 2004 to get Dasschle out of office.W/out a doubt.I think it is actually my duty as a human to do this.Seeing his Smug face on TV is irritating beyond belief to me.I regularly change the channel and I shouldn't have to do that.

27 posted on 05/28/2002 3:19:42 PM PDT by Pagey
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To: cva66snipe
If a Conservative were to run for Trent Lotts senate seat would the RNC support the conservative?

They supported Trent Lott, didn't they? Or are you arguing Trent Lott's voting record isn't conservative (96% in 2001, 100% in 2000, 93% lifetime average). What major votes in the Senate have we been concerned Trent Lott wasn't going to vote the right way?

28 posted on 05/28/2002 3:32:28 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: pulaskibush
AMEN! ROTO-ROOTER THE GUY (WITH SHRILLERY) RIGHT OUT OF WASHINGTON, OUT OF SOUTH DAKOTA--SENTENCE HIM TO A FAT BUNS, FAT HEAD FARM WITH SHRILLERY AND BILLDO AFTER FUSING EACH OF THEIR LIPS TOGETHER EXCEPT FOR ROOM FOR A STRAW. GOTTA MAKE THOSE SOUND BITES MORE DIFFICULT. THE COUNTRY HAS ENOUGH STRESS WITHOUT PUTTING UP WITH NOISE FROM THOSE 3 BULL MEESE AND THEIR MUSK-KATEERING. HOUSE THEM IN THE SAME PADDED CELL AND THROW AWAY THE KEY. TALK ABOUT HELL! WOULD BE GOOD PREPARATION FOR THEM.
29 posted on 05/28/2002 3:46:54 PM PDT by Quix
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To: Republican Wildcat
Do some in depth research on the sucesses of Trent Lott and just who's sucesses they actually were. Here is but one example of it. Lotts sell out actually began around 1995 right after the GOP took the house and senate. www.freecongress.org is an excellent resource for information on this with different persons such as Paul Weyrich who was at one time a personal friend of Lott. Another respectable researcher and writter is Tom Jippin. Here is a good example of Lotts leadership abilities or rather lack of. And there is plenty more where this came from. Free Congress is a respectable conservative and constitution based organization.

Free Congress Commentary

This commentary does not necessarily represent the views of the Free Congress Foundation

By Thomas L. Jipping

September 13, 2000

There's No Need for More Senate-Approved Judges

From the "Legal Notebook" Television Program

The Senate is back in session for the final stretch before Election Day and we are now entering the political twilight zone. Republicans are said to run the Senate only because a majority of Senators have an "R" by their name on the roster. That's leadership in form, perhaps, but certainly not in substance. No, the Democrats are really the driving force in the Senate and their principle management tool is political extortion.

Unfortunately, the GOP has caved into this tactic so often that the Dems know it works. Two years ago, as Election Day also loomed and the Republican majority was also desperate to get out of Washington to campaign and hopefully retain their majority. The Democrats threatened to block passage of appropriations bills and President Clinton threatened to veto those that did pass. That would shut down the government, the event which Republicans fear most. So Republicans started doing what they do best, dealing. On October 21, 1998, the last day of the Senate session and just a couple of weeks before election day, Majority Leader Trent Lott confirmed 17 judges so Mr. Clinton would sign the last spending bill.

Now I know what you are thinking. That's just partisan politics, the same thing that Republicans did when the tables were turned. I wish that were true, but it isn't. In 1992, Democrats ran the Senate and a Republican president was in the White House. When the Senate adjourned that year, there were 107 judicial vacancies compared to just 61 today. In fact, the Democratic Senate refused to even consider nearly 60 nominees, leaving them in limbo until they expired when the Senate adjourned. When they run the Senate, Democrats confirm 38% more of their own party's nominees than they do Republican nominees. When the GOP runs the Senate, they confirm just 19% more. Unfortunately, the Democrats' present strategy is not simply an eye-for-an-eye.

Democrats ran the Senate for six years under a president of the other party, and then handed Bill Clinton more than 100 vacancies to fill. Republicans have run the Senate for six years under a president of the other party, and if George W. Bush would win an election held today, he would be able to appoint only half as many judges. Even facing a supposedly opposition Senate for six years, Mr. Clinton has appointed judges at a faster rate than Mr. Reagan did, though he had a Senate of his own party for six years. Mr. Clinton's record is 369-1. More full-time judges today were appointed by Mr. Clinton than were appointed by Presidents Reagan and Bush combined.

There's no reason for the Senate to confirm a single additional judge. And there's every reason not to confirm any more, especially with most of the nominees currently in the pipeline being radical political activists. The judiciary has become so powerful, and so much of the judicial branch is now occupied by political judges who believe they can make the law, that America is truly at a crossroads. Republicans should turn their majority status into leadership for a change and just say no to more confirmations. Let the people decide by their votes in November.

Tom Jipping is director of the Free Congress Foundation's Center for Law and Democracy.

30 posted on 05/28/2002 5:41:55 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: cva66snipe
Oh, right after 1995? He wasn't the majority leader then. Nice try, but your baloney fails (again). Truth trumps spin.

You seem to also be changing the argument from your original context. His leadership skills weren't at issue, but his ideology. Make up your mind. Your arguments continue to make absolutely no sense.

31 posted on 05/29/2002 9:40:22 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
Oh, right after 1995? He wasn't the majority leader then. Nice try, but your baloney fails (again). Truth trumps spin.

You seem to also be changing the argument from your original context. His leadership skills weren't at issue, but his ideology. Make up your mind. Your arguments continue to make absolutely no sense.

Look I'm a litttle bit older than you and remember some events you that happened when you were still in junior high. When Dole resigned in the 1996 election Lott was chosen but the GOP was on a down turn which was hastened by Trent Lott's being majority leader. And BTW you passed right over Jippins article. No comment on that or is he a spinner as well? Free Congress and it's writters are considered reputable sources by most persons in this forum.

Ever hear of a C-Band Satellite network that was called National Empowerment Television? Or N.E.T. How about Americas Voice which was on C-band and Dishnet recievers? Paul Weyrich a man who is indeed a conservative and has indeed been in on plenty of political decessions was sounding warnings about Lotta and the GOP sellout early on. Weyrich is not one for spin nor his people. Trent Lott can sing a conservative tune to the sheeple and have no problem whatsoever doing so while making deals to sell us out. This man can't lead a two car parade much less the GOP senate.

I listen to proven and tried persons. Paul Weyrich, Janet Parshall, Alan Keyes, Tom Jippin, Bill Lind, Lisa Dean, and many others who are far more knowing of political situations and abuses. I bet you even dislike Larry Klayman if you have a clue as to who he is and the good work he done in the name of justice. But you see Larry is non Partisan and a whole mess of Freepers Boo Hooed when he looked into the GOP. I say thank you Larry. Just for your education Klayman was on to the Clintons right after File Gate. He did civil depositions on Clinton, his staff, and others on critical abuses the Clintons. You couldn't even get most Republican Senators to even have a look see. I expect as much from a Dem and they have my displeasure I demand much better from the GOP and I won't be a quiet sheeple so the party looks good. The GOP is as guilty as the Dems over Clinton.

Bob Barr is another favorite whipping Boy of the "Let's move on crowd". Barr busted his tail as well doing investigations that were fruitfull. If you wish to be conservative you best learn who is and who isn't conservatives. Who says they are and does otherwise. Can you name me the Founder and chairman of the Conservative Caucus a political action org. Have you even bothered to see what the man stands for? Most in here won't because he's not a Republican. Yet wise leaders like Reagan knew he is a key player in the conservative movement and listened to him, Dobson and others.

Most Conservatives who are truly dedicated to conservative issues respect the man for his work and commitment to better this nation. Learn who the real conservatives and conservative voices are and stop listening to the party line cheerleaders who will try and sell you the Brooklyn Bridge as being a tunnel.

You think we are doing well now? Think again. The same situation that let Bill Clinton take this nation to hell in a handcart still exist. It wasn't the POTUS that was the actual Constitutional Problem it was the Leglislative Branch who refused to do their sworn duty for this nation. The same tyrants are still in the senate and considered saints of the GOP except of course for Jeffords. The party loving cheerleaders are to busy worring about their hollow party victories to stop and think about just what wrongs occured in this nations government and more important why did it happen, who allowed it to go unpunished, and how can it be stopped in the future. Even Looney Traficant warned the GOP to go after Clinton on the felonies like China Gate. The fools chose an affair instead. Boy that was a smart move. We lost a speaker and two potentials on count of it. It was then and it still is now a constitutional crisis.

Justice was sold out by all three Branches of Government and Checks and Balances failed to work. The tyrant went unpunished and remained in power.

The only solution now is to remove from office those who were the leaders and those who sat by and for the good of the party ignored Clintons crimes against this nation and let him walk. Yes that also includes the man who said "Let's move on" and his Attorney General. Tell me what will the next Bill Clinton be allowed to do to this nation now that we have established it's fine for a POTUS to sell out America? We lost a lot in 8 years and we are only fooling ourselves to think the matter is resolved.

32 posted on 05/29/2002 1:52:09 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: cva66snipe
I don't understand you. You are trying to change the context of the discussion yet again. That's just not honest.

I stated that Trent Lott's voting record is of conservative ideology. I never argued he was a great leader for the party in the Senate. In fact, I believe the opposite. The article you cited is not relevant to the original context of the discussion and there is therefore no reason to comment on it.

If you'd like to continue this discussion in its original context, go for it. Otherwise, I'm not going to waste anymore of my time.

33 posted on 05/29/2002 9:06:40 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: cva66snipe
Look I'm a litttle bit older than you and remember some events you that happened when you were still in junior high.

I remember the events that went on when I was in junior high as well, that's how I remember Lott wasn't majority leader in 1995. Are you now arguing that memory doesn't function until you reach a certain age?

34 posted on 05/29/2002 9:10:08 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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The posting is in context if you read post 30 and can understand what has taken place. Lott flooded the senate chambers with Clintons judical appointee hearings. ALL BUT 1 WERE CONFIRMED. Now if Lott had half the political smarts and fortitude of Daschle then do you not think more of the Bush nominees would be going through? Who is the man working for is what I'm asking? My point is why cuss Dascle for doing his job. Lott should say no more cooperation till the budget matter and judical confirmations are held. Yes if it takes stopping the nations business to do it so what?

It's the fact the GOP is doing nothing to stop Daschle then crying foul that is their problem. They are still rolling over and playing dead and scared to death that they may have to stick their heads out of their protective shells and do something. I dislike Daschle and his politics but blaming him for the GOP's current woes is a little much.

35 posted on 05/29/2002 9:29:39 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: Republican Wildcat
I remember the events that went on when I was in junior high as well, that's how I remember Lott wasn't majority leader in 1995. Are you now arguing that memory doesn't function until you reach a certain age?

Show me where I didn't correct that statement. You didn't read the post and you're wasting my time with stupid childish games. BYE!

36 posted on 05/29/2002 9:35:07 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: cva66snipe
For the record . My post on 32 as follows corrected my error on Lotts tenure time as Majority leader. His starting date was June 12, 1996.

When Dole resigned in the 1996 election Lott was chosen but the GOP was on a down turn which was hastened by Trent Lott's being majority leader. And BTW you passed right over Jippins article. No comment on that or is he a spinner as well? Free Congress and it's writters are considered reputable sources by most persons in this forum.

37 posted on 05/29/2002 9:46:35 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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Show me where I didn't correct that statement. You didn't read the post and you're wasting my time with stupid childish games. BYE!

There you go again. I've got you, and now you are hoping people didn't read the statement you made that I am responding to in that last post, hoping they will think I am still beating a dead horse over the date Lott became majority leader, rather than it being a response to your ridiculous suggestion that I'm not capable of knowing what was going on back then because I was in high school. And you call me childish?

By the way, I have agreed with you that Lott is a poor leader. And yet you continue to respond to my posts as if I am arguing against that point. The point of discussion was Lott's ideology and a request for you to justify your assertion that Lott's voting record/ideology is not conservative, which you have to even attempt to defend, and instead keep referring me back to an article about his leadership ability, not his ideology.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt yet again and assume that you are just simply confused about the topic of the discussion and not dishonest (as it is increasingly appearing to be). I hope that repeating myself yet again and making the topic of discussion clear will finally wake you up.

38 posted on 06/01/2002 8:34:19 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: South40
BUMP
39 posted on 06/23/2002 9:34:46 PM PDT by timestax
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To: cva66snipe
"If a Conservative were to run for Trent Lotts senate seat would the RNC support the conservative?"

Don Nickels (R-OK), the #2 man in the GOP Senate leadership, has already announced his candidacy to replace Lott.

My guess is the next Majority Leader of the Senate will be either Nickels or Rick Santorum (PA).

40 posted on 06/23/2002 9:39:17 PM PDT by okie01
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