[Bush2000]

The statement that you've never had an MS product fail you means you've not built any serious systems with MS products -- period. MS products have created so many problems for us even when set up by MS people directly. I've lost so many hours to dealing with problems with MS pieces of systems . . . and you've never had one problem, you claim.

Don't lay your failures at everyone else's door, Harr. Just because you can't get your sh*t together doesn't mean that everyone can't do it, either. Maybe you should consider changing careers. I hear that McDonald's is hiring...

SQLServer and IIS alone account for so many problems it's professional incompetence to use them for serious work, for goodness sake!

I will grant you IIS; however, you're grossly exaggerating about SQL Server.

Most developers don't use MS solutions. Most web servers are NOT IIS. Only very few developers use MS solutions, relatively. And those developers seem to use MS solutions for one of two reasons -- they're paid to, or they simply don't know better solutions are available.

I guess MS must have been paid $1B in play money then ... because that's how much SQL Server earned over the past year.

[Dominic Harr]

I will grant you IIS; however, you're grossly exaggerating about SQL Server.

IIS is a piece of junk. SQLServer is barely adequate, but even a simple MYSQL instance configured right can blow it out of the water.

MS has made it's sales of SQLServer by doing what ya'll are doing -- fraudulently promising companies that SQLServer can compete. Then those companies get inside it, and are trapped. The ones capable of doing so migrate away from SQLServer, and a small portion -- about 20% of the market -- are stuck, locked in. Which is, of course, your plan.

MS is the Brittnely Spears of software. Use control of distribution channels and industry clout to sell the ignorant on low-quality product.

Certainly that's a proven successful business model. But don't go trying to sell me on the idea that cash makes quality.