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If Sun crashes and burns, the rights to Java crash and burn with it.

IBM, HP, Oracle, and literally a thousand other companies make that very unlikely.

In fact, there are many of us that wish Sun would either drop the hardware focus or just spin off the Java division into it's own independent group.

Besides, I'm a developer -- I will just move to the next technology. Could even be .NET, as you already know, I'm working with C# also. I'm technology agnostic. Ironically enough, I'm exactly the type of developer that .NET is going to have to win over if it expects to survive.

I would *never* lock myself into a single vendor, like you have. I have skills, so I don't have to.

"I'm exactly the type of developer that .NET is going to have to win over if it expects to survive."

No, Harr. Microsoft needs developers who can consistently provide services without trashing Microsoft. Frankly, Microsoft could care less about you. They care about the customers who use their products in their daily operations. Developers? There are more than are needed as it is.

IBM, HP, Oracle, and literally a thousand other companies make that very unlikely.

The Java Community Process doesn't own Java, Harr. You know that (or should, at any rate). Sun retains all rights to Java. That means if Sun tanks, it takes Java down with it because another company could buy the rights to Java and start charging royalties. Then you'd be royally screwed.

In fact, there are many of us that wish Sun would either drop the hardware focus or just spin off the Java division into it's own independent group.

A rare moment: We actually agree on this point. I consider it to be a strategic mistake for Sun to not release Java to ISO or ECMA.

Besides, I'm a developer -- I will just move to the next technology. Could even be .NET, as you already know, I'm working with C# also. I'm technology agnostic. Ironically enough, I'm exactly the type of developer that .NET is going to have to win over if it expects to survive. I would *never* lock myself into a single vendor, like you have.

I think you'll get a chance to be flexible at the rate things are going for Sun.

I have skills, so I don't have to.

I could be mean and say that janitorial skills are a dime a dozen. But I won't. Oops, I already did.