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Cokie's Kooky Kops
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| Ted Lang
Posted on 05/29/2002 11:41:54 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
Beautiful Rant! Bump!
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posted on
05/29/2002 12:51:34 PM PDT
by
PsyOp
To: Arkie2
An aircraft has an instrument called a "G meter" It measures the amount of force applied to the aircraft in "Gs". When you are flying straight and level, lift and gravity are in balance. When you initiate a climb the G meter will register the force being applied in positive Gs. When you initiate a dive a corresponding measurement in negative Gs will be registered. Therefore, a 1 G climb means that you are accelerating upward at twice the rate that gravity is pulling you downward. The same foces apply on a ferris wheel, roller coaster, and Whip the Whip.
To: Sir Gawain
Rio Linda, CA, just west of SAC. Small tracts of land with what looks like squatter's shacks on them. Lots of horses, goats and chickens. Definately not upscale CA living.
To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
"The Authorities" bump.
Your post 'right on the money'. ;^)
To: Sir Gawain
I would feel more secure if, as the author seems to wish, my security was not dependent on the gun of the guy who is supposed to be inside the cockpit, flying the plane.
I'd rather have a couple of armed sky marshalls on EVERY flight...not just selected ones...we DID "federalize" airport security, did we not??? WELL, baggage handlers aren't exactly the government's forte...but WELL TRAINED, WELL ARMED SOLDIERS ARE.
Keep the cockpit secure, by leaving the pilot to do his job and transport passengers as safely as possible. DO NOT insist that the pilots have to open the damned cocpit door!! It was bad enough oyu people INSISTED od FEDERALIZING airport security in the first place!!!
To: Young Werther
Sorry to burst your bubble. One G is unaccelerated flight. One gravity is what you experience sitting in your chair or in straight and level flight. Two G's, twice the force of gravity would result from an aggresive pull up or a level 60 degree banked turn. Zero G is accomplished in a push over and that's how the Astronauts train for space. A good basic physics review is apparently in order for you.
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posted on
05/29/2002 1:05:31 PM PDT
by
Arkie2
To: Republicus2001
Bowie.
I have ALWAYS thought Cokie Roberts looked like Bowie. ALWAYS!!
Dan
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posted on
05/29/2002 1:06:52 PM PDT
by
BibChr
To: Sir Gawain
Guns scare me, so you can't have one.
To: BibChr
actually also kinda a long-haired Jack Nicholson as well!
To: Sir Gawain
EXCELLENT!
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posted on
05/29/2002 1:19:11 PM PDT
by
SkyPilot
To: Arkie2
Let's see if I understand. When I'm sitting in an aircraft waiting for push back from the terminal, how many Gs is the aircraft experiencing?
To: Young Werther
One G
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posted on
05/29/2002 1:23:40 PM PDT
by
Arkie2
To: Sir Gawain
Most of these pilots are trained by the military. They've already had training in firearms. Where has Cokie been?
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posted on
05/29/2002 1:30:41 PM PDT
by
abclily
To: Arkie2
Very Good! And when the pilot accelerates down the runway and initiates a 1G climb, what force is the aircraft and occupants experiencing?
To: Young Werther
Well, if he initiates a one G climb he's going to sail off the end of the runway at which point his passengers are going to experience a many G stop! Even the rotation to climb requires a force slightly higher than one G although you can't feel it. Don't argue with me son, I do this for a living.
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posted on
05/29/2002 1:34:25 PM PDT
by
Arkie2
To: Young Werther
To: Young Werther
Max accelleration (approx) during takeoff is 0.3 G "backwards" = into your seat back. plus the "usual" 1.0 G down plus the .01-.05 G "up" as the plane lifts .... Add up the vectors, and you get 1.3 some-odd "G" total.
During level flight, 1.0 "G", and no backwards vector. So a net vector of 1.0 G.
To vomit, you climb very steeply (everything is thrust towards the floor at 1.2-1.5 G, then "arc over" and dive down. The parabolic arc the plane takes (first up, then over, then down) "approximates" the parabolic "thrown" force that the objects inside the plane get from the previous rising part of the flight.
So, the "free" objects in the plane (EVERYTHING not tied down!) is thrown "up" then "forward" then "down" and floats as if there was no gravity. Since the plane is moving on that specific trajectory also, you can float in midair ("0" G for about 25 seconds) then you get forced to floor suddenly at the end of the arc.
The curve is difficult to do and takes regular practice. Done improperly, it can also break the airplane. Certainly break people inside from falling/moving loose objects. Might disrupt the hijackers .....
Might not.
But Katie doesn't care. She'd rather shoot the plane down.
To: Young Werther
#1. Your link does not work.
#2. Those manuevers would also affect everyone else on the plane, not to mention possible injuries from flying objects...dumb idea.
#3. If the pilot is not properly trained and/or physically conditioned for G straining manuevers, they would all be screwed anyway.
FYI: I work with current President of the International Academy of Aviation and Space Medicine, who is world renowned for his research in acceleration physiology.
To: Sir Gawain
You have to remember that Cokie's daddy was one of the most "Liberal" Southern Congressmen in the middle years of the last Century. In many respects he was a pioneer of the turncoat variety that has since produced Bill Clinton. Indeed, some people thought that Hale Boggs might be up to more than just Leftwing Democratic politics, but I don't think that that was ever proven.
But Cokie probably grew up with the value system--and "analytic" abilities--that it has taken another generation of NEA propaganda to instill in most American kids.
William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site
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posted on
05/29/2002 4:36:48 PM PDT
by
Ohioan
To: Young Werther
No...repeat..No commercial airliner has a 'G' meter.
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