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To: Eska
Teachers are forced by contract to adhere to goals 2000 type socialism. Its right there in black and white in their contract. They are not permitted to teach by law unless they tote the line that our politicals institute. Who votes for the politicians; hello, you and I.

The NEA whole-heartedly advocated Goals 2000. Did teachers depose the NEA leadership? The biggest campaign spender in the State of California is the Teachers' Union. Do teachers sue to get their illegally confiscated campaign money back pursuant to the Supreme Court? The State Legislature belongs to the CTA lock, stock, and barrel. No sale.

Our government instills the standards that are maintained, not the NEA or the teachers.

False premise. The government does what the unions want. The DOE bureaucracy is overwhelmingly represented by teachers.

You would be surprised to see how many teachers are conservatives and hate watching our system of education being federalized. It will lead to more control and less freedom.

No, I wouldn't be surprised at all. The teachers don't dump their leadership and replace them with conservatives, do they? They don't sue for refunds on their dues to prevent them from being spent on campaigns, do they? The point stands. Do you want to know how to fix it?

Linda Chavez is organizing a national effort to pass the Workers Freedom of Choice Act. Congressman Tom Tancredo (R.-Colo.) has introduced the legislation. The Act would restrict union dues to the purpose they were originally intended: representing workers directly with their employers through collective bargaining, servicing the union contract, and representing employees in the grievance process.

Unions will still be able to raise money to use for politics, so long as they do it the same way every other group does -- by asking members to donate money to causes of their own choosing. Now that would be campaign finance reform worthy of the name.

The government would just luv declaring homeschoolers unfit parents that are denying their children basic standards of education (social & academic) that our all knowing government knows best.

Of course they would. They have failed in every attempt in California because homeschooling parents are organized. I am a homeschooling parent. You think I don't know this?

You think I'm joking; just think how far we have come.

No, I don't think you are joking, I think you are way behind the curve.

You should take a look at your own state's educational content and performance standards. Math, English, Govt, Geog, Life Skills, Arts, World Langugaes, Tech, Employability, Literacy, CULTURAL STANDARDS,ect.

I've seen them.

You will be shocked at the one world mindset that our Govt has embraced.

No I wouldn't. The Girl Scouts have embraced them too and are dominated by lesbians. Welcome to reality.

Believe me, you hide your head in the sand and cry about the evil teachers; but they are only a small part of the picture.

No, they're not and I'm not, but I think you have been until only recently. That's why I am tossing cold water on your mistaken assertions. The teachers are just too stupid and too disorganized to do anything about it.

Most teachers hate all the politics, one reason why there is such an extreme shortage.

I don't buy it. Teachers are one of the most active political groups there is. They were the LARGEST single group of delegates at the last Democrat National Convention.

I see our Republican Prez acting like a lib. I see hordes of money dumped into education by the feds. I see school districts becomming addicted to all the federal money and standards. I don't see any money going towards vouchers, sad. I don't see dramatic change in direction with reference to education. I don't see 90% of America effectively homeschooling their kids.

I do. After taxes and the cost of child care, homeschooling is not that big a sacrifice.

Just don't blame the teachers for everything, look in the mirror America.

No sale. Teachers and teachers' colleges are more responsible for the decline of educational standards in America than any other group, with perhaps the exception of psychologists. America reflects its education. Go to the links I provided you, buy the books, and get an education. This problem goes MUCH further back into history than you realize.

16 posted on 06/04/2002 11:32:54 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
No offense, C_O; I think you should go back into the schools and see what is really going on rather than blaming everything on those evil teachers. You know, I see our schools moving towards complete federalization everyday.

You can tell yourself over and over homeschooling is going to solve everything; but in reality 80-90% of America is in the public school system and the way old GW is handing money to public education without regard to vouchers; I just don't see the world you seem to envision.

I think changes in the current govt school system would be a more viable direction than vouchers. IF GW hasn't developed a true voucher system by now, why delude yourself any longer with such dreams?

Bees go for the honey; maybe change will occur from within the system? I just don't see the education industry giving homeschoolers the time of day in the current climate of controversy. But rest assured, standards, testing, and assessment will be used to against homeschoolers down the road. The handwritings on the wall and it doesn't concern just academics if you know what I mean. That is why the NEA is such a strong supporter, (along with our politicals) of benchmark testing & cultural standards.

Guess I just have seen a little from both sides on the education issue and understand it is alot more complex than you understand.

21 posted on 06/04/2002 7:05:06 PM PDT by Eska
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