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New York Post ^ | 6/04/02 | JOHN LEHMANN

[kattracks]

Prison visits were taped.

June 4, 2002 -- The lawyer accused of helping imprisoned blind terror sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman smuggle communiqu

[friendly]

Lawyers are almost all sociopaths and unindicted criminals. Attorneys genuinely believe that they are above the law, that laws do not apply to them, and that they can misuse and abuse others without the slightest guilt. This is the definition of an anti-social personality.

In the case of the breathtakingly repulsive Lynne Stewart, we see a bone fide traitor working actively to assist in a mass murder conspiracy. Usually lawyers restrict their "professional practices" to brazen theft and heartless exploitation.

Lynne Stewart is only one example of why the legal industry is a sick evil enterprise. Attorneys arrogantly spit on the Constitution and ethics. Most Americans regularly rate lawyers as having a level of confidence and respect at the absolute bottom of all professions and occupations.

[remaininlight]

Lawyers are almost all sociopaths and unindicted criminals. Attorneys genuinely believe that they are above the law, that laws do not apply to them, and that they can misuse and abuse others without the slightest guilt. This is the definition of an anti-social personality.

No way is this almost all lawyers. More like 25%. But your description of this rotten bunch is right on!

[Donald Stone]

Friendly is more correct,his/her description defines close to 99% of the lawyers in the U.S.

Lawyers are almost all sociopaths and unindicted criminals. Attorneys genuinely believe that they are above the law, that laws do not apply to them, and that they can misuse and abuse others without the slightest guilt. This is the definition of an anti-social personality.

[plsjr]

I once had a military lawyer tell me that about 90% were morally vacant.
His comments are born out by my personal experience with a graduate of my alma mater, also the commander of a missile crew, who informed one of his crew that he had a sleeping bag he wanted to replace that would be in his garage with the door unlocked (nod, nod, wink, wink).

I believe the 90% has moved towards 100%.
As a result of the SCOTUS deciding, without precedence, that the Bible must be removed from public schools because, they excused, it might psycologically harm a student, the moral foundation of the U.S. was destroyed. Now rougue jurists have replaced clear guiding principles with a tar-pit of politically motivated decisions promoting carpetbagging lawyers, the mindset of "I'm a victim ... it's [fill in the blank]'s fault, and I deserve [obscene] compensation, and a general disrespect for the law.

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[plsjr]

I failed to emphasize the missile commander was also studying pre-law ... and became a lawyer ... in Arkansas.

[sneakypete]

How could they legally tape conversations between a lawyer and a client? This WAS considered to be un-Constitutional as hell,and the gooberment was banned from even trying to do it. Is this just one more example of Bubba-2's so-called Patriot Act,or does stuff like this come under his "Office of Reich Security"?

BTW,I know some of you Bush-Bots (NOT directed at you,kattracks) are going to whine about what I wrote,but the Constitution and Bill of Rights are more important than a few terrorists.

[BlueLancer]

"This WAS considered to be un-Constitutional as hell.."

Funny, but my copy of the Constitution doesn't say anything at all about lawyer-client conversations ... in fact, the only mention of counsel in the Constitution is in the 6th Amendment ("... and to have the assistance of counsel in his defense"). You must have the updated-Libertarian version of the Constitution.

The laws written and court decisions have usually extended the attorney-client privilege; however, a court order can override this privilege.

[jpthomas]

Here's a link to the article about this on the Smoking Gun website: Smuggling the Sheikh's Messages. There's a lot more sordid detail in it about the active role of the Sheikh's disgusting attorney.

[gunnedah]

This is the way Americas Criminal Justice System operates.Justice is blind simply because some lawyer tells her what she can see and hear.You and I or anyone else can manipulate a system that we have that much contol over.The only people in America protected by the Criminal Justice System are the crooks,rich & powerful,The Press and Lawyers.Think about it, when is the last time you have been protected by this system,if you dont fit into one of the above named categories?Count the number of people murdered and go tell them they have been protected and if you are a member of their family go show them how you protected them and their rights.Victims in America have no rights unless you are rich,powerful,the press or a member of the ABA!If you are not a member of these groups you have no rights or protections when it comes to court!

[CatoRenasci]

The lawyer-client privilege is ancient, deriving from the Common Law. It is generally regarded as being Constitutionally grounded in the 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination.

What the privilege does not permit, however, is for a lawyer to aid a client in the commission of a crime. A showing of probable cause that such had occurred might well be enough to permit an inquiry into otherwise privileged communications. It would appear that is the case here, but how they determined they had probable cause, and who authorized the recording of the privileged conversation is unclear.

[Catspaw]

I believe Stewart signed an agreement that gave the government permission to tape the conversations she had with her client. It was in the complaint and also in the news stories about her when she and the others were arrested. I'll dig it out on findlaw.com and post it later, or, if you scroll down on this page, read the Sattar indictment.

[remaininlight]

I will adjust my estimate upwards. I do however think many lawyers are plodders who just want to make a living. Not wise guys at all.

[vannrox]

bump

[BlueLancer]

"It is generally regarded as being Constitutionally grounded in the 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination."

Ah, just like the "Constitutional right to an abortion" is grounded in the "right to privacy".

[Donald Stone]

I really don't care if they are plodders, what I find most despicable about them is the absolute disrespect they have for the Constitution of the U.S. and the "Rule of Law" for which they have sworn an oath to uphold !!!!!!!!

[friendly]

"Now rougue jurists have replaced clear guiding principles with a tar-pit of politically motivated decisions promoting carpetbagging lawyers, the mindset of "I'm a victim ... it's [fill in the blank]'s fault, and I deserve [obscene] compensation, and a general disrespect for the law."

Razor sharp accurate, plsjr. As an example of this phenomenon, there are a number of areas plagued by particularly corrupt court systems (Mississippi and Nevada) that are seeing an exodus of skilled trauma surgeons, neurosurgeons and obstetricians, literally fleeing to states with affordable malpractice insurance. If you get sick crossing Mississippi, try to keep driving until you reach the border!

[friendly]

"I do however think many lawyers are plodders who just want to make a living."

Lawyers work in an utterly corrupt system, and make money by exploitation. Even if you are "plodding," you are plodding in an enterprise of evil. Consider the fact that this is the only industry (and a multi-billion dollar industry at that) with no absolutely no consumer or governmental oversight whatsoever.

[friendly]

"What I find most despicable about them is the absolute disrespect they have for the Constitution of the U.S. and the "Rule of Law" for which they have sworn an oath to uphold !!!!!!!!"

megadittos.

[Salvey]

As a recovering lawyer with 40 years experience, I sadly have to agree with your assessment.