Posted on 06/05/2002 12:02:48 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
THE VATICAN
Sacred Congregation for Religious
February 1961
Careful Selection and Training of Candidates for the States of Perfection and Sacred Orders. An Instruction, Religiosorum institutio, to the Superiors of Religious Communities, Societies without vows, and Secular Institutes on the careful selection and training of candidates for the states of perfection and Sacred Orders is as follows:
Article II. The Care to be Taken in the Selection of Candidates for the State of Perfection and the Clerical State, Section D. The Required Chastity, Subsection 30, Item 4 (last paragraph):
"Advancement to religious vows and ordination should be barred to those who are afflicted with evil tendencies to homosexuality or pederasty, since for them the common life and the priestly ministry would constitute serious dangers."
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"Perhaps because they don't want to provoke the 'intergenerational sex' defenders -- sadly, there are some -- within the gay community, neither Human Rights Campaign nor National Gay & Lesbian Task Force (has) addressed the main problem among the Roman Catholic clergy, that of adults having sex with teenage boys...they do not address the major problem in the current Catholic scandal, which is the climate of forbearance within the church hierarchy for priests having sex with adolescent males...the pattern of sexual abuse among Catholic clergy does suggest a gay problem...Of course, one can cite examples where such behavior has not been harmful."
Hastings Wyman, syndicated columnist
Between the Lines (Michigan homosexual newsmagazine)
http://www.pridesource.com/cgi-bin/article?article=3841220
(Wyman's column focusing on "gays" and national politics is distributed by QSyndicate in Los Angeles and appears in 15 "gay" newspapers.)
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Of course one can site examples where ones parachute does not open and the fall is not fatal. But these instances are exceedingly rare.
I think the same can be said of victims of priests having sex with adolescent males.
Yep, that would be the The Rind Study that says adult/child sex is not harmful if the child doesn’t think so, it was Good News for NAMBLA. Of course the study was conducted under the supervison of Robert Bauserman who is a menber of Divison 44, a known homosexual activist and looks for a new "scientific objectivity," with the explicit call for research that will challenge the social-moral taboo against adult/child sex. .
Names and addresses of some Church leaders:
Pope John Paul II, 00120 Vatican City State, Europe;
Papal Secretary, Msgr.Stanislaw Dziwisz, Apostolic Palace, 00120 Vatican City State, Europe
Most Rev. Wilton D. Gregory, Bishop of Belleville (President of USCCB)
The Chancery, 222 South Third St., Belleville, IL 62220
Phone:618-277-8181; Fax:618-277-0387; email:info@diobelle.org ).
Pray to St. Peter Damian for reform.
"At Seminary, Unease Over Gay Priests Unspoken Issue Created Atmosphere of Tension"
Seminary turned out to be a "great place to come out," he said. "There were other guys there in the same building going through the same struggles, and faculty members who didn't throw it up in your face."
...By March, he had found friends he could confide in. It began with two guys who he talked to that day after the movies and who gave responses he liked, then grew into a larger group. It's not like it was a "gay club or anything," or even a network -- "that sounds so conspiratorial," he said.
But these were men who liked to do the same things: buy group tickets to the Shakespeare Theatre, see French films at the Dupont Circle movie theater, drink wine out of real glasses, eat somewhere other than Colonel Brooks'.
By Hanna Rosin Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, July 21, 2002; Page A01
The word in bold could cause them embarassment. They have toned it down in the catechism and letter on pastoral care of gays and lesbians.
For the life of me why would anyone want to pray to a dead body when he can pray to the Risen Lord?
But it was an offhand response to a question, and generated much controversy because in fact church policy does not forbid ordaining gay men.
Evidently that is a falsehood and most people have remained ignorant (or defiant) about the directive.
But these were men who liked to do the same things: buy group tickets to the Shakespeare Theatre, see French films at the Dupont Circle movie theater, drink wine out of real glasses, eat somewhere other than Colonel Brooks
I don't think the writer necessarily meant it, but the implication is that heterosexual men do not have refined tastes. I don't believe that is true. You can be heterosexual and cultured and refined as well.
Is it a gay thing for a man to arrange flowers? I heard something on the radio that made me wonder where (if any) was the cutoff point.
People are going to pray the way they learned and it's best not to rock their boat, especially when it is not the subject of the thread.
Speaking as a devoutly heterosexual Catholic man who, among other things, at one time studied art history in Europe (college Humanities program), I can suggest that we as heterosexuals are quite capable of exercising excellent and refined taste. It's generally been on more than one occasion in the history of Western civilization that great writers, artists, and musicians were inspired by beautiful and elegant women. Dante comes to mind.
What was it David Spade said once on SNL about there being a need for more heterosexuals in the fashion industry - "Let the heterosexuals pick the women" (for fashion model photography shoots)??? Or words to that effect. There's a strong defense-mechanism oppositional-defiant response built into homosexual psychopathology. You'll find these absurd claims to special artistic or literary powers. Grandiosity as consolation for not being able to love women?
The big scandal with this seminary crisis has to do with homosexuals insinuating their sexual problems into the Catholic priesthood as if the two are essentially related. From the accounts in the article, it's obvious some of these are immature, spoiled brats from suburbia loafing around contemplating their navels and gender identity crises in solipsistic delirium in between stops at Dupont Circle restaurants. That reveals a lot about their priorities. Luxury dining blocks from the homeless on 14th St. Glad to hear "Catholic" dollars are funding European art films at gay theater houses in Dupont Circle? [irony alert]
"Paging Cardinal Hickey...Cardinal Hickey? Is anyone there?"
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