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U.S. to conduct small underground nuclear test
Japan Times ^ | 6/5/02

Posted on 06/05/2002 6:00:21 AM PDT by Enemy Of The State

U.S. to conduct small underground nuclear test

WASHINGTON (Kyodo) The United States was to conduct a subcritical nuclear test Wednesday at an underground test site in Nevada, the Energy Department said Monday.

The test, the 17th of its kind and the fourth under the administration of President George W. Bush, is part of the so-called Oboe series of relatively small-scale subcritical nuclear experiments, the department said.

The department earlier said it had completed the Oboe series of experiments with last December's test. But a department official said it has become necessary to conduct at least one more test to collect new data.

The U.S. argues the tests, which do not involve nuclear explosions, yield essential scientific data and technical information needed to maintain the safety and reliability of the U.S. nuclear weapons stockpiles.

Antinuclear groups say the tests run counter the spirit of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty on nuclear weapons.

But the department says they do not violate the treaty because no critical mass is formed and therefore no self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction occurs.

The Japan Times: June 5, 2002
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1 posted on 06/05/2002 6:00:21 AM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
I'm going to "test" my gun by pointing it at a target and saying BANG! Stupid story by the anti-war, anti-nuke crowd.
2 posted on 06/05/2002 6:11:58 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave
How big is a "small scale, subcritical" experiment ?
3 posted on 06/05/2002 6:16:43 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Well, figure that if it's a non-nuclear, subcritical explosion, then it's the weight of the explosives in the device - which wouldn't be a whole lot. I couldn't give you the exact weight of conventional explosives in a nuclear device, but it doesn't take a lot.
4 posted on 06/05/2002 6:20:02 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: Enemy Of The State
>U.S. to conduct small underground nuclear test

There are some bunkers in Afghanistan that need 'testing.'

5 posted on 06/05/2002 6:20:55 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Dialup Llama
" There are some bunkers in Afghanistan that need 'testing.' "

A trial balloon was let loose about 6 months ago about developing a new class of small bunker busting nuclear warheads that could penetrate the 'impenetrable' in Iraq. This is probably unrelated, but still a reasonable possibility.

6 posted on 06/05/2002 6:28:15 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: Enemy Of The State
Antinuclear groups say the tests run counter the spirit of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty on nuclear weapons.

Idiots. We limit a nuclear test to fit a treaty we've signed, fully honoring the treaty--and they have the nerve to say we're violating it in "spirit." Idiots.

7 posted on 06/05/2002 6:33:08 AM PDT by xm177e2
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To: elfman2
I believe the essence of those tests was the ability of the warhead to penetrate or "tunnel" sufficiently deep prior to exploding. We know how to build a device small enough to fit into a howitzer shell or the warhead of a cruise missile. Once you penetrate the bunker, most any yield will do. ;-)
8 posted on 06/05/2002 6:44:58 AM PDT by Blueflag
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

US Department of Energy Subcritical Tests

Disarmament Diplomacy -- Issue No 17

Press Release on First Test

'DOE Successfully Conducts First Subcritical Experiment,'Department of Energy Press Release R-97-064, 2 July 1997

Full text

"The Department of Energy's Nevada Operations Office today conducted the first subcritical experiment at the Nevada Test Site, named Rebound. Analysis of data from monitoring instruments confirmed that the experiment remained subcritical, that is, no nuclear chain reaction occurred. Scientists obtained data from the experiment that will be used to support efforts to maintain the safety and reliability of the nation's nuclear weapons stockpile without underground nuclear tests.

Sponsored by Los Alamos National Laboratory, the Rebound experiment was conducted at 10 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time in the U1A complex, a horizontal tunnel mined about 960 feet beneath the ground surface. The purpose of Rebound was to obtain information on the response of plutonium to shock wave compression under different high pressure conditions (several million times atmospheric pressure). Three different explosive assemblies containing a total of about 75 kilograms (160 pounds) of chemical high explosive, an amount comparable to that used in highway construction, provided three different pressure conditions. This explosive energy was directed at about two dozen pieces of plutonium with a total mass of less than 1.5 kilograms (3.3 pounds) with the largest being 70 grams (2.5 ounces).

Subcritical experiments are scientific experiments to obtain technical information in support of the DOE program to maintain the safety and reliability of the US nuclear weapons stockpile without nuclear testing. The experiments use chemical high explosives to generate high pressures that are applied to nuclear weapon materials. High speed measurement instruments are used to obtain scientific data on the behavior of the materials.

The configuration and quantities of explosives and nuclear materials have been designed so that no nuclear explosion will take place.

Thus, the experiments are consistent with the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. They are called 'subcritical' because there is no critical mass formed, i.e. no self-sustaining nuclear fission chain reaction occurs.

The U1A Complex is an underground laboratory consisting of a horizontal tunnel about 1,100 feet in length mined in alluvium at the base of a vertical shaft 960 feet beneath the surface. The shaft is equipped with a mechanical hoist for personnel and equipment access, while another vertical shaft about 1,000 feet away provides cross ventilation, instrumentation, utility access, and emergency access.

The explosive assemblies for Rebound were placed in a small, permanently sealed room mined at the end of a 500-foot long drift that intersects the main tunnel. The complex provides a high degree of safety for test site workers and the public, and minimizes environmental impacts. The shaft was originally mined in the 1960s and a nuclear test named Ledoux was conducted in 1990 in a horizontal tunnel mined from its base."

Fact Sheet on Second Test

'Energy Experiments Comply with Test Ban Treaty,' Department of Energy Fact Sheet, 2 July 1997

Extracts

"The Department of Energy is planning to conduct two 'subcritical' high explosive experiments at the underground U1A Complex at the Nevada Test Site (NTS) in fiscal year 1997. ...

Holog is the nickname of the second planned experiment and is sponsored by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. The primary objective of Holog is to obtain data on the characteristics of plutonium material ejected from its surface when it is subjected to a shock wave from high explosive. The beam from a laser outside the explosive chamber will be used to create a holographic image of the plutonium at the moment of explosion, hence the nickname, Holog. Data on the reflection of laser light from plutonium under these conditions will also be obtained using high speed cameras. Two explosive assemblies will be placed in a room about 7 feet by 7 feet by 9 feet in size. A relatively small quantity of chemical high explosive will be used in two assemblies: about 100 grams (approximately 3 ounces), equivalent to several large firecrackers.

The energy of this explosive will be directed at two plutonium samples, each about the size of a half-dollar, with a total mass of about 140 gm (approximately 5 ounces)."

© 1998 The Acronym Institute.

9 posted on 06/05/2002 6:46:37 AM PDT by Starwind
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To: Starwind
You can find additional info, including the Oboe schedule (a bit off-schedule actually) and test site architecture here
10 posted on 06/05/2002 6:53:36 AM PDT by Starwind
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To: Enemy Of The State
good
11 posted on 06/05/2002 6:57:00 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Enemy Of The State
I'd be willing to bet that this is testing the new bunker buster nukes.
12 posted on 06/05/2002 7:02:12 AM PDT by Intimidator
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To: Starwind
A relatively small quantity of chemical high explosive will be used in two assemblies: about 100 grams (approximately 3 ounces<), equivalent to several large firecrackers.

Wonder if I could buy some like that in Alabama. The M-80's they make today just don't have much kick.

13 posted on 06/05/2002 7:09:20 AM PDT by tet68
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To: tet68
Yep. They'd work real good for shootin' cans in the air.
14 posted on 06/05/2002 7:13:09 AM PDT by Starwind
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To: tet68
They used to sell M-500's around these parts. Been a while since I've seen em, tho.
15 posted on 06/05/2002 7:22:58 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Enemy Of The State; All
"U.S. to conduct small underground nuclear test"

Okay, I'll ask because I don't know.
If no fissile material goes critical, how does this qualify as a "nuclear test" in the strictest definition?

Here is a link to nuclear blast info for all:

A Nuclear Explosion

Az

16 posted on 06/05/2002 7:27:44 AM PDT by azhenfud
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To: CedarDave

GOOD!

The Bush Administration is moving forward with their "Pocket and Tactical Nukes". The fact that they are at the test phase shows an enormous amount of work was conducted in a relatively short time. This is good news. I hope that the test is successful.


17 posted on 06/05/2002 8:58:43 AM PDT by vannrox
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To: azhenfud
The "reasoning" of the anti-nuke crowd is that there is radioactive material present in the experiment, although not enough to produce a chain reaction when compressed by the high explosive. The could say the same thing if I blew up my smoke detector (Am-241) with a cherry bomb.

The subcritical program has been going on since the unofficial testing moriatorium in late 1992, and has more to do (probably) with stockpile maintenance than new warhead development.

18 posted on 06/05/2002 9:11:46 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: vannrox
The Bush Administration is moving forward with their "Pocket and Tactical Nukes". The fact that they are at the test phase shows an enormous amount of work was conducted in a relatively short time. This is good news. I hope that the test is successful.

Ostensibly, this was a previously scheduled test against exsiting weapon systems. I don't think this was development.

19 posted on 06/05/2002 9:13:35 AM PDT by Starwind
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To: xm177e2
Idiots. We limit a nuclear test to fit a treaty we've signed, fully honoring the treaty--and they have the nerve to say we're violating it in "spirit." Idiots.

Not idiots -- purposefully evil.

20 posted on 06/05/2002 9:17:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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