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To: KentuckyWoman
I've noticed for a long time that people get very insulting and condescending whenever one of these NWO threads comes out. But the scoffers are right on this one, because most of the complaints listed here are more indicative of the liberal education hierarchy than any worldwide conspiracy.

I used to listen to a Christian radio show about the supposed New World Order, around six years back, and the guy was wrong on every single prediction he made. The host at one point actually predicted that the Illuminati or the Bilderbergers or whoever, were going to let Dole beat Clinton in 1996, just in order to more easily facilitate their coming globalist empire. Hoo boy. And then we wonder where people get the idea that anyone who believes there's more to the world than the donkeys and the GOP is a nut or an idiot.

The elites rule the masses. The wealthy control society. This isn't new. They live by one set of standards while they hold us "proles" (Orwellian short for proletariat) to another. And it takes a long time for them to feel the pain and misery of their own rules, reg, laws, and policies, because they live in an insulated world. And positively NOTHING changes, as basic as the time we spend at a traffic light, until some rich guy with connections howls to the right people. There are exceptions where the citizen has an impact...but for the most part, only when noxious policies begin to affect the rich and powerful will they change, and not necessarily through the process we learned in civics class.

An awful lot is indeed negotiated and implemented out of public sight. Politics, like everything else, is often a game to our elite rulers, their financiers, and fellow travelers. I tend to consult my Bible about these matters. But we can't ascribe everything bad that happens to a degenerate conspiratorial or corporate elite. Otherwise, we'd have to give them credit for the good stuff that happens too, and there's an awful lot of it. We have one heck of a standard of living, and a great deal of freedom. The fact that so many of us can pass the time sounding off like this means things ain't that bad, folks. Just my opinion.

36 posted on 06/07/2002 2:29:36 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Luke21
The fact that so many of us can pass the time sounding off like this means things ain't that bad, folks. Just my opinion.

Slaves with an illusion of freedom are still slaves.

most of the complaints listed here are more indicative of the liberal education hierarchy than any worldwide conspiracy

When you realize that "our" education system isn't "ours" at all but comes straight from the UN and the other global elites and has been being planned since the early 1900s, it gets a bit easier to see the "big" picture without having to get stupid about it by making idiotic predictions and blaming some particular group for all the world's ills.

37 posted on 06/07/2002 2:40:52 PM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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To: Luke21

I think the mistake that a lot of folks make lies in the confusion over the term "conspiracy." No, it's not a secret gathering of the Bilderbergers or CFR folks plotting the overthrow of the USA. What is going on might best be described as an alternate religion - one that that takes a utopian view that all of mankind's ills and problems can be solved if they just could control all of these aspects of life on earth and get rid of things viewed as an impediments (like the Constitution, National sovereignty, and most of all.... Christianity and Orthodox Judasim.) From the standpoint of such a worldview, the banning of any sort of reference to Christianity in public schools while simultaneously allowing the teaching of Islam is completely consistent. The immediate goal is to destroy the culture of the majority population and elevate that of "oppressed others" through multiculturalism and open borders. That way, entire nations can be reduced to a vast body of souless drones who will gladly rubber-stamp any and all proposals from the members of the ruling elite - the "new class." This is now what we see taking place in the EU.

At root, the managerial/political elites have the same view of mankind that Lenin, Stalin and Hitler held. If everyone would just submit to their all-knowing rule, utopia will emerge. Traditiional Christianity and Judaism view this as the ultimate blasphemy, since they hold that all of us - regardless of how wealthy, smart, photogenic, or charismatic we may be - are ultimately fallen creatures who are in need of the Creator's mercy and salvation. This also explains why we see so much support for Islam among both the corporatist and leftist branches of the NWO, despite differences in approach. The corporatist wing declares that Islam is a "religion of peace" (a huge lie) and insists that it is being perverted by "fundamentalists" (a term deliberately used to equate Christians who adhere to traditional teachings with murderous jihadis) while the leftists insist that the Muslims are "freedom fighters" like the Minutemen (Michael Moore). Despite the very real - and often savage - dispute over the method to bring about utopia (heaven on earth), the leftists and corporatists ultimately share the same vision of mankind and life on Earth - one completely devoid of God.


61 posted on 01/11/2005 11:49:25 PM PST by Bogolyubski
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