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UN, ACLU Denounce Ashcroft Immigration Security
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 6/07/02 | Jim Burns

Posted on 06/07/2002 11:33:14 PM PDT by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - A national security proposal by U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft is coming under fire from the United Nations and the American Civil Liberties Union.

U.N. Human Rights Commissioner Mary Robinson said Ashcroft's plan to collect photographs and fingerprints from foreigners entering the U.S. has "worrying aspects." Similarly, the liberal ACLU likened the proposal to "selective enforcement."

"It is grouping hundreds of thousands of people, the vast majority of whom are completely innocent, into particular approaches and strict controls on immigration," Robinson said during an interview on BBC's Today program Friday.

The ACLU argues that the new plan treats immigrants as a separate element of society and would result in surveillance of those who hold unpopular beliefs.

"It's pretty obvious that this plan won't work at anything except allowing the government to essentially pick on people who haven't done anything wrong but happen to come from the administration's idea of the wrong side of the global tracks," said Lucas Guttentag, director of the ACLU Immigrants Rights Project.

"Selective enforcement of any law based on unchangeable characteristics like race, ethnicity or national origin is at its core un-American," Guttentag added.

Under the new rules, visitors would be checked against databases including fingerprints gleaned from raids on terrorist training camps. Anyone who showed up as a criminal or a threat could be barred from entering the U.S.

The Justice Department referred calls for comment to the Office of Homeland Security, which did not return calls seeking comment.

Ashcroft contends that terrorists and wanted criminals often attempt to enter America under assumed names and false passports, but fingerprints do not lie.

"By running the fingerprints of entering aliens against these prints, we will be able to stop terrorists from entering the country. In addition, we will run the fingerprints of incoming visitors against a database of wanted criminals," the attorney general said.

"And, we will be able to stop terrorists from entering the United States a second time under a different name using forged documents. We have the technological capacity to do this, and now we have a sizable database of fingerprints of known terrorists. We need to deploy this technology as soon as possible to protect American lives," said Ashcroft.

The Freedom Alliance, a conservative think tank, countered U.N. criticism of Ashcroft's plan by claiming Robinson's remarks show that the U.N. wants to dictate American policy. The group called on the Bush administration to stick to its guns.

Robinson is "notorious for criticizing the United States," according to Fred Gedrich, a senior policy analyst for the Freedom Alliance. "The U.N. is trying to influence and meddle in U.S. foreign policy and national security matters."

"The real issue here is that we are in a state of war," Gedrich said, adding that the U.N. is "way off base."

He defended the U.S. policy, saying that Ashcroft should implement the new entry control policy despite the U.N. criticism.

"We're a sovereign nation, and I put it in the category of what we are allowed to do under Article 51 of the UN Charter," Gedrich said. "And that is to defend ourselves."

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1 posted on 06/07/2002 11:33:15 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Needless to say, anything either the UN or ACLU is against, I support, and vice-versa.
2 posted on 06/07/2002 11:38:23 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
Screw these communist jerks! Did you notice the non-mention of D-Day in the local and national news?
3 posted on 06/07/2002 11:42:16 PM PDT by Oiler#66
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To: kattracks
Dress Mary Robinson in a burqa and deport her to rural Afghanistan.

That way, she won't have to worry about what U.S. entry standards for aliens are.

4 posted on 06/07/2002 11:43:52 PM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: kattracks
Click here - they are trying to stop the ACLU. I keep hearing the words from the ACLU "racial profiling". Unfortunately for the ACLU, the scum racially profiled themselves.
5 posted on 06/07/2002 11:47:15 PM PDT by BUSHdude2000
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To: Oiler#66
I`m so mad about no mention of D Day I could scream. Damn the media.

On another note, Ashcroft must be doing everything right if both the UN and ACLU are upset.

6 posted on 06/07/2002 11:47:20 PM PDT by bybybill
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To: kattracks
Sic 'em, John.

P.S. You play a mean piano, too.

7 posted on 06/07/2002 11:50:41 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: glc1173@aol.com
Dress Mary Robinson in a burqa and deport her to rural Afghanistan.

That way, she won't have to worry about what U.S. entry standards for aliens are.

LOL! Very true, and would that she would have to live in a third world paradise for a while. It might make her appreciate her own freedoms here a little more.

8 posted on 06/07/2002 11:51:14 PM PDT by xJones
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To: kattracks
The ACLU argues that the new plan treats immigrants as a separate element of society and would result in surveillance of those who hold unpopular beliefs.

Unpopular like killing innocent people because they are Jewish or American? ACLU has to be next in the great plan of restructuring.

9 posted on 06/07/2002 11:51:19 PM PDT by swheats
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To: kattracks
"It is grouping hundreds of thousands of people, the vast majority of whom are completely innocent, into particular approaches and strict controls on immigration," Robinson said during an interview on BBC's Today program Friday."

If they're innocent, then they have nothing to fear. The alternative is to just STAY HOME.

10 posted on 06/07/2002 11:51:40 PM PDT by brat
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To: kattracks
And with this recent turn of events the UN's streak of making asinine declarations extends to 55,650.
11 posted on 06/07/2002 11:51:47 PM PDT by Bogey78O
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To: brat
It's not that they have nothing to fear. It's that the US can resrict access to anyone it deems fit and can make whatever qualifications for residency it deems necessary. If the US deemed it proper we can withdraw all residency and order the deportation of all non-citizen residents.

Our country. Our rules.

12 posted on 06/07/2002 11:54:06 PM PDT by Bogey78O
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To: kattracks
The UN should be knocked down by a wrecking ball and the slimy, third world parasites forced to flee like the cockroaches they are back to their own cesspools of backward, failed corruption. The subhuman excremental ACLU should be declared an active national security threat and put on the terrorist watch list and detained, defunded, dispersed, and deported like Muslim insurgency and agitation groups. We don't need serpents in our bosom.
13 posted on 06/07/2002 11:54:06 PM PDT by rebelsoldier
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To: Oiler#66
I did notice D-Day was barely mentioned in passing on the news...

That might have inconveniently interfered with the media's re-writing of history though. By the time they're done, I've got a feeling Boy Clinton will go down as 'William Wallace' and his socialist wife as 'Joan of Ark'.

14 posted on 06/08/2002 12:00:54 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: brat
Why do I feel like my head is going to explode when I read this kind of stuff? I guess we are supposed to keep our blinders on and our hands tied behind our back? These people would have us only take our hands form behind our back to dig the graves for our dead. The hell with them all! The people that continue to support the ACLU are fools or need to be stripped of their citizenship.
15 posted on 06/08/2002 12:03:24 AM PDT by Postbro1
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To: F16Fighter
My brother pilot's a f-18 !
16 posted on 06/08/2002 12:03:35 AM PDT by Oiler#66
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To: patriciaruth
Just FYI.

June 2nd or 3rd, 1984. The venue: Hilton Airport Inn ballroom in St.Louis. The occasion: kickoff campaign dinner for John Ashcroft for Governor. The band: Al Hirt on trumpet, John Ashcroft on piano and vocals, and...Stan Musial on harmonica and vocals (and he's basically G*d in St. Louis, and, don't know where he learned, but he plays a dynamite harmonica).

The audience: typical Pubbie campaign contributors, mostly oldish phartes (I was there because I had written a couple of childishly simple computer systems for them, and no, I did NOT pay the $400 drag).

This one-term ad hoc band was astonishing. Even the oldest of the phartes were up dancing and clapping and singing, and well after the time most of 'em should have been taking their Geritol, they asked for about 90 minutes of encores.

Unforgettable, and a LOT of fun.

17 posted on 06/08/2002 12:04:37 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: F16Fighter
This is WAR, We must awake the sheep!
18 posted on 06/08/2002 12:07:08 AM PDT by Oiler#66
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To: rebelsoldier
The UN should be knocked down by a wrecking ball and the slimy, third world parasites forced to flee like the cockroaches they are back to their own cesspools of backward, failed corruption. The subhuman excremental ACLU should be declared an active national security threat and put on the terrorist watch list and detained, defunded, dispersed, and deported like Muslim insurgency and agitation groups. We don't need serpents in our bosom. It is one of the most wonderous things in this world: the UN does not like the US. They are constantly trying to change things about us. Why then do they not relocate to another country? Is it that they love living off of Central Park West and having their selection from everything they could ever want in this world? What a bunch of jerk-offs.
19 posted on 06/08/2002 12:13:35 AM PDT by Postbro1
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To: kattracks
"UN, ACLU Denounce Ashcroft Immigration Security"
My mother always said, "Consider the source." So ok, all things considered, two thumbs down for the UN and the ACLU. I consider Attorney General Ashcroft a very pro-American man.
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20 posted on 06/08/2002 1:08:09 AM PDT by Cindy
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