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Hijackers' money trail traced to Oklahoma
www.newsok.com/ ^ | 2002-06-06 | By The Associated Press

Posted on 06/08/2002 6:15:04 AM PDT by It'salmosttolate

Hijackers' money trail traced to Oklahoma

2002-06-06
By The Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- The government kept hijacking ringleader Mohammed Atta's roommate from entering the United States on at least four occasions but didn't track his money transfers, including $14,000 in money orders sent to Oklahoma, that led directly to the eventual hijackers, law enforcement officials say.

Ramzi Bin al-Shibh -- named in court papers as an unindicted hijacking co-conspirator and the focus of a worldwide manhunt -- intended to join the hijackers on their mission but shifted to providing logistical support when he couldn't get into the country, the officials said.

Officials said the Yemen citizen was refused a U.S. visa four times in 2000 because of suspicions he wouldn't leave America if he was let in.

FBI money tracking experts have reconstructed wire transfers he made from Germany and Yemen, some under an alias, that went to the eventual hijackers and to one of the flight schools where they trained, the officials told The Associated Press. Two of those transfers were sent to Oklahoma last summer to Zacarias Moussaoui, the man U.S. officials believe was chosen to replace Bin al-Shibh as a hijacker but who was foiled when he was arrested at a Minnesota flight school last August, officials said.

Moussaoui is the lone defendant charged with conspiring with Osama bin Laden, Bin al-Shibh and the hijackers in the Sept. 11 attacks. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty against him.

Officials said Bin al-Shibh is now listed in the ``tip-off'' computer system that alerts the State Department and Immigration and Naturalization Service about foreigners who are believed to have ties to terrorist activities, countries and organizations.

But they added the CIA had no information before Sept. 11 linking him to terrorism.

Nonetheless, experts said Bin al-Shibh's actions highlight the challenges in stopping future terror attacks.

His repeated failed efforts to enter the country did not trigger an investigation. And there was no effort to track his finances.

When Bin al-Shibh failed to enter, Moussaoui was sent in his place and made it into the country with $35,000 in cash and a plan to train to fly jetliners, officials say.

``This gets stranger and stranger,'' said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., one of the senators investigating the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. ``Why we were able to keep Atta's roommate out but not Atta and the rest of the terrorists is beyond me.''

A State Department official said Wednesday there is still no mechanism, even in the aftermath of Sept. 11, to flag a foreigner who is turned down repeatedly for visas for suspicions like those that surrounded Bin al-Shibh.

``It would be very difficult to draw a distinction between the typical profile of someone desperate to come to the United States for financial and social betterment reasons and is turned down several times for a visa and the terrorist or someone else with ill intent,'' said Edward Dickens, a spokesman for the consular affairs office that approves visas.

Most of the money transfers from Bin al-Shibh came after U.S. officials rejected his first two requests for a visa to enter the country on May 17, 2000, and June 15, 2000, from Germany.

He made at least two additional visa requests that also were rejected on Sept. 15, 2000, in Yemen, and Oct. 25, 2000, in Germany, records show.

The official files show the State Department rejected Bin al-Shibh's visa requests each time because he ``could not overcome the presumption'' he wanted to overstay his visa, according to officials who have seen the file.

Those officials said the suspicions at the time were that Bin al-Shibh:

Could not give a specific reason why he wanted to be in the United States and could not prove he intended to leave when his visa expired.

Was born in Yemen, which is suspected of harboring terrorists and was the site of the 2000 USS Cole bombing linked to bin Laden.

Despite the visa rejections, Bin al-Shibh went undetected as he began wiring money to the eventual hijackers. He kept most of the transfers below $10,000 — a limit that can trigger suspicious money reports to the government. And he used an alias to wire some of the money as Sept. 11 drew closer, authorities said.

According to court documents and authorities who have researched Bin al-Shibh's background, the Yemeni citizen moved to Germany in the mid-1990s and worked at the same computer company as Atta in 1998 and 1999. The two shared an apartment in Hamburg, Germany. Federal prosecutors allege in court papers that Atta, Bin al-Shibh, and hijackers Marwan al-Shehhi and Ziad Jarrah ``formed and maintained an al-Qaida terrorist cell in Germany'' beginning in the late 1990s.

According to court records and interviews, Bin al-Shibh:

Wired money July 26, 2000, from Germany to al-Shehhi in Florida, where he was attending flight school.

Arranged Aug. 14, 2000, to wire money from his account in Germany to the account of a Florida flight training school where Jarrah attempted to enroll Bin al-Shibh for pilot lessons.

Sent money Sept. 25, 2000, via wire transfer from Hamburg, Germany, to al-Shehhi in Florida.

Received on July 30 and 31, 2001, two wire transfers from the United Arab Emirates in the amount of $15,000 and then on Aug. 1 and Aug. 3 wired $14,000 in money orders to Moussaoui in Oklahoma. For these transactions, Bin al-Shibh used an alias, Ahad Sabet, according to U.S. officials.

None of the transactions were flagged by financial institutions, officials said.


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To: remaininlight
Arabs came to learn this. These courses were there for Okalahomans to learn how to exploit their native state's oil/gas reserves

OU has had world-class geology, petroleum and natural gas engineering schools. I graduated from OU in 1950; there were a lot of Arabs attending these schools at that time.

So it's not exactly an "al-Johnny come lately" thing.

21 posted on 06/08/2002 7:12:29 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: rubbertramp
Today, racist is defined as any critical statement about any group or any individual, regardless of it's relevance to ethnicity, appearance or belief.

Jews, Christians and conservatives excepted, of course. And then all anyone has to say is "Fascist" and those who have never been taught the real meaning of that term all look right, look left and strongly join in the condemnation. If they don't, they are immediately suspect of belonging to or supporting any of the 3 groups allowed to be reviled with impunity.

22 posted on 06/08/2002 7:25:08 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal
XXXXX male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

What if I put the words "Jew" or "black" in that statement?...this thread would light up like a Christmas tree.

Heylady should change her name to hatelady.

23 posted on 06/08/2002 7:42:16 AM PDT by rubbertramp
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To: Ole Okie
You know better than I since you graduated from OU. Do they teach about oil refineries too? How to engineer and build one? Even so I believe most Arab refineries are built by US and European firms. Thanks.
24 posted on 06/08/2002 7:46:19 AM PDT by remaininlight
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To: rubbertramp
You bet it would, because Jews and Blacks haven't been doing the stuff that Militant Islamic Extremists between 17 and 40 have been doing all along.
25 posted on 06/08/2002 7:56:53 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: rubbertramp
ISI Chief Lt. General Ahmed was in D.C. on the 4th and met with Richard Armitage on the 12th and 13th. Likewise he met with Joseph Biden on those two days, and on the 13th he held a long discussion at the State Department. Prior to 9/11 it was well known within the Departments of Defense and State, and in the intelligence committees on the Hill that the ISI was riven by loyalties. A strong cabal of Islamist officers had supported the Taliban and Al Qaida and had done so since the early 1980s, and years before the CIA made its appearance along the Afghan-Pak frontier. Even before 9/11 the Americans were actively involved in pushing the reduction of the Islamist presence in the ISI, something that Musharraf has undertaken -- not as fast as some want, but at great personal risk to himself.
26 posted on 06/08/2002 8:05:39 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: rubbertramp
It would be false if you substituted Jews or Blacks for Muslim males. Truth hurts, eh?
27 posted on 06/08/2002 8:15:44 AM PDT by Aria
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To: OKSooner; Aria
I don't know about your country, but in this country there is freedom of religion.
28 posted on 06/08/2002 8:22:41 AM PDT by rubbertramp
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To: aristeides
Then there is that small matter of Atta training at the Air College in Alabama....
29 posted on 06/08/2002 8:24:14 AM PDT by rubbertramp
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To: OKSooner
BUMP!

rubberstamp is missing the ink pad....he is almost useless!

30 posted on 06/08/2002 8:33:21 AM PDT by crazykatz
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To: rubbertramp
Well, if "Jew" or "Christian" applied, then you would be correct. But "Jew" or "Christian" does not apply. "Muslim" does. That's her point.
31 posted on 06/08/2002 8:33:27 AM PDT by jammer
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To: rubbertramp
I don't know about your country, but in this country there is freedom of religion.

If that reply is in any way relevant--which it is not--then realize this: freedom of religion does not include flying passenger airliners into buildings.

Give it up man: your desperation is showing.

32 posted on 06/08/2002 8:35:29 AM PDT by jammer
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To: goldstategop
They decided the real target was right wing Christians, hate radio, and the so called militias. Thanks to the Clinton inspired diversion we avoided dealing with the real threat and soon we had 911. Ain't it lovely?

And don't forget the house of pleasure in New Orleans.

33 posted on 06/08/2002 8:38:59 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Rottweiler
Oklahoma? Don't I remember somebody being suspicious of Muslim involvement in some sort of explosion in Oklahoma?

Oh, now I remember -- some American guy confessed, so it's IMPOSSIBLE that any Muslims were involved.

Convenient, isn't it? There's quite a foundation for this theory, even going so far as to Dan Burton "investigating" the possibility: however, he never seems to get anything done. Check our profile for bookmarks to many of the FR posts on this topic if you want more info.

Mrs Kus

34 posted on 06/08/2002 8:52:31 AM PDT by cgk
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To: goldstategop
I wonder if 911 would have happened if they hadn't framed it as a case of White Boy domestic terrorism. Well the feds executed McVeigh in haste and while no one thinks he's innocent, the fact of the matter is any secets he had that may have shed light on a possible radical Islamist terrorist connection died with him.

Good point. Remember, it was Timothy McVeigh that ASKED to stop all appeals and speed up execution. Could it be that McVeigh knew of the plot and wanted be out of the way once the attack happened?

My guess is that the gubbermint and McVeigh both knew the connection. McVeigh knew before it happened - and now the gubbermint knows as well - but their cover-up will never see the light of day. Mr. John McGaw (former ATF) being the head of transportation security is an absolute joke. Now we have 2 groups to fear: Islamic terrorists, and former ATF "terrorists" who claim to defend us from them.
35 posted on 06/08/2002 8:57:45 AM PDT by safisoft
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To: remaininlight
Even so I believe most Arab refineries are built by US and European firms. Thanks.

You're absolutely right.

Middle easterners tended to concentrate in the petroleum engineering and geology schools, at least at OU at that time.

36 posted on 06/08/2002 9:28:08 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: goldstategop
Well the feds executed McVeigh in haste and while no one thinks he's innocent, the fact of the matter is any secets he had that may have shed light on a possible radical Islamist terrorist connection died with him.

Did McVeigh really die on 6/11/01? This question was posed to me by someone in state gov't (MN). There was a parade of "witnesses" but no one saw the body. McVeigh had a backgound in special ops, did he not? Was he useful to the gov't or others in places of power? I have no answers. Tinfoil hat strapped on. <:D

37 posted on 06/08/2002 9:54:24 AM PDT by irgbar-man
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To: rubbertramp
What?

Why is it hateful to point out the obvious?

What is your motivation, dude?

Do you not think that everyone in the US (and world) agrees with her post?

If not, you should.

38 posted on 06/08/2002 10:21:27 AM PDT by caddie
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To: glorygirl;ronneil
fyi
39 posted on 06/08/2002 10:28:15 AM PDT by Free the USA
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