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1 posted on 06/09/2002 7:12:29 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper
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While I agree that the US media and particularly Hollywood has a strong anti-catholic bias, the Church has botched the handling of these abuse cases.

The greatest threat to the Church is from the people in the pews who are already dropping their contributions and may quit going to church or look to some other denomination if this mess isn't cleaned up.

The hierarchy is also falling victim to it's own liberal mindset. The same people who lament the execution of mass murderers were also too willing to forgive and forget the crimes perpetrated by their own members.

2 posted on 06/09/2002 7:25:10 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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And then there are those who are out of control. Bill Keller, until a few months ago the managing editor – the number two hot-shot – at The New York Times

I am shocked, shocked I tell you, to learn that the Times hierarchy is populated by phonies. Comparing the Pope to a Commie is particularly ironic for a newspaper that used to LIE REPEATEDLY about the nature of Communism - Walter Durranty - to help it metastasize and enslave and murder scores of millions of Christians.

. Is it possible to hate these sob's more than I do?

3 posted on 06/09/2002 7:31:15 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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6 posted on 06/09/2002 7:39:17 AM PDT by WIMom
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Nice little article. I can't understand why the irony of the fact that the Church got into trouble just by doing exactly what these forward-looking critics suggested - i.e., liberalize or totally ignore its traditional moral and disciplinary practices - goes completely unnoticed by them.

Well, I'm sure they notice it; but then, I guess they aren't really eager to claim their well deserved "credit" for the epidemic of evil in the Church. Maybe they're just being humble about it.

11 posted on 06/09/2002 7:53:08 AM PDT by livius
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The church is "intolerant of dissent, . . .

Really? I missed that -- I wonder what he gave for examples. It has reacted to some dissent, but it's been pretty much "no enemy to the left."

29 posted on 06/09/2002 11:21:34 AM PDT by maryz
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It's a stupid comparison. The Pope is first among equals. The American Bishops are much more culpable than the pope and even that is a misleading statement. The Catholic Church is not totalitarian.

Even blaming the bishops is wrong, many made mistakes, but the Devil takes advantage of those mistakes to make them worse than they might have been. Forgiveness is a good thing, but it's two-edged.

Ultimately homosexuality is the problem, something the NY Times would never accede to, being run by flames.

31 posted on 06/09/2002 2:51:48 PM PDT by WriteOn
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