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Clothing Found With Chandra's Body (Condit-Levy)
6-9-02 | crystalk

Posted on 06/09/2002 8:51:11 PM PDT by crystalk

When Chandra's body was found on May 22, we started getting a list of clothing items supposedly found with it: sweat shirt, sweat pants, who knows what all. When I and other posters pointed out that she could never have been wearing all this at one time, the official list condensed to say that what was found was: spandex tights, T-shirt, panties, tube-type exercise bra, and ordinary sneakers (not running or specialty shoes). This at least brought it down to what might be worn at the same time.

However, it raised other questions. This is what someone might wear while working out on the weight machines in a gym [and oddly enough she was last seen, by the official time line, at a gym 2 blks from her apt] but one would NEVER jog or go on a long walk in spandex tights, and this seems a little chilly for 4/30 in DC unless in the very warmest part of the day.

BTW none of these clothes were said to be "worn" or ON the body, but just thrown out near it in a random fashion, and now the Enquirer says the tights were found around a tree clear up on the flatter area near the (official, maintained) West Ridge Trail in RCP!

We have seen speculation all along that Chandra maintained clothing at Gary's apartment, or her own, but that was all neatly packed by someone, in bags ready to leave, when her apt was searched 5/6/01. Only a few things left in drawers or closet.

It is totally non-credible that Chandra would have gone out to meet Gary, or to lunch with friends, or even to a bank or shopping, in the attire found on the slope in Rock Creek Park.

Even AT the gym, would she not have showered and changed back into something more street-worthy before going home?

I am wondering if these items, assuming what was found is only what we are now told, were WHAT SHE HAD IN A LOCKER AT THE GYM, to use just there while working out and then changed out of.

For a year, we were told that on Monday evening 4/30/01 she checked out of the gym and terminated her membership, saying she would soon move back to California. Suddenly about a month ago I began to see it said that the 4/30 transaction as evidenced by a receipt found in her apartment [virtually the ONLY thing found there: the apt had been sanitized and wiped clean of fingerprints]--showed Chandra not as having terminated, but as having PAID FOR ANOTHER MONTH--ie May, and thus continued her membership. Which is it? We are being told two stories. If the new story is true, was she really even planning to leave DC at ALL?

It has struck me that, if someone who was throwing out her bones (body, corpse) in Rock Creek Park had only a nude body, whether fresh or decomposing, and wanted to set it up to look like she had been attacked there...and this was after May 16, when all of Chandra's clothes had been taken by her parents...Where on earth could the perp get anything of hers? Answer: How about the contents of her gym locker, this one outfit she wore there while working out. [It was said that Gary and Dayton were also members of this gym.]

That might also account for the fact her name was sewn into certain seams...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: condidit; conditlevy
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1 posted on 06/09/2002 8:51:11 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: crystalk
VERY thought provoking! Better sleep on that one!
2 posted on 06/09/2002 8:56:11 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: crystalk
I wish you worked for the FBI or CIA - I'd certainly sleep better at night.

What is obvious is that the DC police sure are chumps -- or, they are doing a fine job of coverup and don't mind that it makes them look way stupid. I guess a lot of cold hard cash could make one overlook appearances.

3 posted on 06/09/2002 9:12:12 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: crystalk
look for a 'hello, my name is GARY' sticker discarded near the body
4 posted on 06/09/2002 10:09:55 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99
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To: crystalk
I don't see the USC sweatshirt listed in your write up of the actual clothes found. Are you saying that there is no sweatshirt, or did you forget it? Several news reports specifially mentioned the USC sweatshirt.

From the articles I've read, I am not entirely clear on the tights. Were they tights, aka opaque stockings? Or were they leggings, aka tight knitted pants? I can see her popping out in a sweatshirt and leggings. Leggings are stretchy and might be described as tights by newspaper reporters who don't know the difference.

5 posted on 06/09/2002 10:59:47 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: crystalk
I meant to say that your analysis is very interesting and may have merit -- except, how would Gary get her gym bag?
6 posted on 06/09/2002 11:01:31 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The USC sweatshirt, after much repetition, turned into a USC T-shirt.

The word "leggings" is still much used, but these were later said to be made of spandex and capable of being stretched out to great lengths, so as to bind a person's wrist to her foot while still wearing them (?) if I have understood this correctly.

7 posted on 06/09/2002 11:49:03 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Perhaps the same way this receipt got into her apartment, or this transaction was even made in the first place, or the same way he/persons for him, got into her apartment to sanitize it on 5/2 or other appropriate time after her death.

I do not think any of this would be much trouble for a congressman, especially if a few palms were crossed. How was it the landlord at the Newport refused to perform, or let others perform, a well-being check at her apartment until after the security tapes had rewound and rewritten over?

8 posted on 06/09/2002 11:53:06 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: crystalk; condidit; plummz; rosencrantz; fred mertz; dogbyte12; saundra duffy; diver dave; betty jo
I hadn't heard this new story that Chandra extended her membership. Can you provide a source?
9 posted on 06/10/2002 5:15:45 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: alamo-girl
Hum Bump
10 posted on 06/10/2002 7:32:31 AM PDT by vannrox
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To: crystalk; aristeides
The initial reports of a USC sweatshirt were incorrect, the MPDC now says it is a USC t-shirt. There was never any report of sweat pants. That leaves as attire: running tights, shorts, running bra, t-shirt. It may have been a little warm for running tights; but if she was going to meet Condit in Rock Creek Park, she may have been wearing them so as not to cut her legs. I don't have any reason to think she was wearing something else when she disappeared. Condit was a control freak and would not have ben happy with her storing clothes at his apt, though she may have wanted to. (Remember how uspet he got when AMS found one of Chandra's hairs?)

As for the gym membership -- it is my understanding that she had to give a 30-day notification of closing the gym membership, and that is what she did April 30. Washington Sports Club has a deal with sister company New York Sports Club and apparently other regional gyms that enable someone with a WSC emmbership to use facilities in other cities. The gym clerk was interviewed last year explaining this, you should be able to find the article on lexis-nexis if you can't in the FR archives.

11 posted on 06/10/2002 8:06:50 AM PDT by Plummz
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To: aristeides
Not a primary source, but it is widely alleged on the chat site "whereschandra.com" especially by poster "rd," a fairly respectable researcher and follower of the case.

This is as surprising to me as it is to you. If I thought there was ONE thing established from last year, it is that she checked out and terminated the gym membership on 4/30 about 8 pm, even 7:30. [Except for those who thought the gym guy was lying; making up any checkout or altering date/time and details.]

Since 5/22 I am suddenly reading that the event was later, more like 8:30 or near 9 because she went ahead and worked out AFTER the alleged half hr conversation w/the gym guy. I am also reading that the transaction evidenced on the receipt was NOT a terminating of her membership, but a paying of May's dues[WITH OR WITHOUT GIVING A 30 DAY NOTICE OF TERM AT END OF MAY, depending on who you listen to], thus continuing membership (so she COULD have used it right on thru May)...

12 posted on 06/10/2002 8:09:52 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Spandex running tights.
13 posted on 06/10/2002 8:10:57 AM PDT by Plummz
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To: Plummz
Are you forgetting the flat sneakers, not a specialized athletic or running shoe, and possibly socks, unless the tights had feet in them?

Also the MPDC and writers persist in calling these "leggings," creating a different picture, then if pressed saying they were of Spandex, and were stretched way out to tie her up [even while she was still wearing them ?!?!]

Writers are changing "leggings" in the official releases, to "tights" on TV, to try to convey the picture better [IMO]

This garb may be what she was lounging around her apt in, and the Levys' attorney has now flatly stated she was abducted "from her apartment," not even weaseling to the extent I do in my theory, where I said "from the grounds or premises of her apartment"--allowing for a possible luring down to the door, or out to the curb...[This has caused renewed attention in recent weeks to the Screams reported at the Newport after 4 am on the morning of 5/1/01.]

14 posted on 06/10/2002 8:20:14 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: condidit
A small item from the media column in the Business section of today's WashTimes:
No compromise

The District's top cops were angered last month when WTTG reported Chandra Levy may have been tied up before she died, but the station says the story didn't compromise the investigation.

WTTG was careful to not report how Miss Levy may have been restrained, News Director Katherine Green says. "We would never report something if we thought it would compromise a police investigation," she says.

Reporter Paul Wagner broke the story May 23, citing unnamed law enforcement sources. In a published report the next day, Terry Gainer, then the District's assistant police chief, said the sources who leaked the information should be "shot or put in jail."

Mr. Gainer, now chief of the U.S. Capitol Police, could not be reached for further comment. A source close to him said he didn't blame the station for reporting the information, he was just angry it was leaked.

The report was the latest exclusive for Mr. Wagner, who has covered the Levy case for more than a year. Last year, he was the first reporter to disclose police planned to search the home of Rep. Gary A. Condit, a California Democrat. Police have repeatedly said Mr. Condit is not a suspect.

15 posted on 06/10/2002 8:20:53 AM PDT by Plummz
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To: crystalk
I wish I could remember what Chandra was reportedly wearing that last night at the gym, or what someone at the gym said Chandra typically wore while working out. It was reported somewhere in the media last year, but I have not yet located it.
16 posted on 06/10/2002 8:42:15 AM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: crystalk
I left out the shoes because I didn't recall any details. If she was just walking to the parkl t meet COndit, any kind of sneakers would be expected.

the Levys' attorney has now flatly stated she was abducted "from her apartment,"

I missed this. Do you have a cite? The Levy team presumably has more informaton than we do and such a statement would be quite significant.

17 posted on 06/10/2002 8:45:43 AM PDT by Plummz
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It is now being alleged that, so far from the whole body being dumped here [perhaps soon after the killing], that the ENTIRE LEFT LEG INCLUDING HIP AND BUTTOCK, from the waist down, was cut off and is (or was) missing, something random action of animals would not be likely to cause. The entire remainder of the skeleton, including entire right leg, and including tiny bones of the hands and the right foot, and the hyoid bone in the throat, were present and accounted for.

The nature of the cut which involves dividing the tough left pelvis bone separate from both the right side of that bone, and the spine, would tend to rule out animal activity. The left femur is also still missing in its entirety.

The later bringing of the (left) tibia alone, attached to a wire, back to the search area on the slope in Rock Creek Park, was also unlikely to have been the work of small rodents.

"Any self-respecting squirrel would bet its two front teeth that this was the work of human beings," according to Crystalk, an expert in matters squirrelly.

18 posted on 06/10/2002 10:57:12 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: Plummz
Are you sure SHORTS are still on the list? Or is this the same thing as were called "panties" in this list here?
19 posted on 06/10/2002 10:58:17 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: aristeides; Plummz
more crystalk condit-levy
20 posted on 06/10/2002 11:00:12 AM PDT by crystalk
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