It's The Elite Who Are Corrupt

King Features Syndicate ^ | 06/10/02 | Charley Reese

[Billy_bob_bob]

I have TONS of respect for the people who worked their way to the top. I have NO respect whatsoever for those who lied, cheated and stole their way to the top. Unfortunantly, we live in an era where far too many of the "elites" are in the latter category instead of the former.

[rvoitier]

I've just gotten into the book and you're right about the elite thinking they know more than the 'common man.' Maybe they do but at least the common man is open to hear what they have to say where the elite not only hold disdain for anyone disagreeing with them but go the extra step to demonize and denegrate him. Proof and facts to the contrary of their visions don't stop them in their quest or direction.

[nopardons]

When wasn't that true ? Some people , from time immemorial , have lied and cheated their way to the top; some haven't.

[vox1138]

Time to practice vigilance. Point taken. Thank you.

[Dat]

Most people who complain about the elite are disappointed that they are not the elite. Given the chance they would be just as "corrupt" as the people they rail against.

[philetus]

Dem gets in,takes away a little freedom.
Rep gets in, damned if he don't take away a little more.
Let's try a dem again,whoops, there goes some more freedoms.

The rich elite become more and more able to do whatever they please,and get away with it.

The average man/woman gets more likely to go to prison for something thats supposed to be legal.

[Uncle Bill]

"The surest way to out a complete loser is when they use the term "elite". Not only does it smack of a whining "loser in like's lottery" it also is right out of Das Capital"
11 posted on 6/9/02 11:04 PM Pacific by Texasforever

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"It's time we asked ourselves if we still know the freedoms intended for us by the Founding Fathers. James Madison said, "We base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self government."

This idea? that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power is still the newest, most unique idea in all the long history of man's relation to man. This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American Revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves."
President Ronald Reagan - A Time for Choosing, aka The Speech. Source

[Texasforever]

This idea? that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power is still the newest, most unique idea in all the long history of man's relation to man. This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American Revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves."

I can play your little game all night.

[nopardons]

No ; you aren't correct at all. Skakel just got convicted, as have many , whom you would call " elite ".

Just to be certain that we understand each other, whom do you consider to be " elite " ?

[nopardons]

Gee, and wasn't George Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, et al the ( gasp ! ) elite ? Wasn't Ronald W. Reagan, movie star, governor, and president ... also one of the elite ?

[Uncle Bill]

"The surest way to out a complete loser is when they use the term "elite". Not only does it smack of a whining "loser in like's lottery" it also is right out of Das Capital"
11 posted on 6/9/02 11:04 PM Pacific by Texasforever

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"From time to time, we have been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. But if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the burden. The solutions we seek must be equitable, with no one group singled out to pay a higher price."
President Ronald Reagan - Tuesday, January 20th, 1981. President Reagan's First Inaugural Address. Source

[philetus]

Skakel might be related to the Kennedys but he wasn't among the elite.

I`m related to Erskin Caldwell, but that doesn`t make me part of his family.

Whom do I consider to(consider themselves to) be elite?

Clintons, Bushes,Foxes,Greenspans,Fords,Rothschilds,Morgans and the list goes on.

No, I`m not wrong.

[UCANSEE2]

"Absolute power
Corrupts absolutely
Which is a bad thing
If you are powerless."

[Sandy]

Gee, and wasn't George Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, et al the ( gasp ! ) elite ?

You missed the author's main point. The term is not necessarily pejorative.

When the elite who run a country have good morals and high standards, then you have a good country. If the elite become corrupt, you have a corrupt country.

[nopardons]

I missed nothing. I understand fully what the article said; but I was offering refutation to the MARXIST posts, which were admittedly off topic.

We , as a nation, have been governed by " elites ", of one form or another. The FFs were no exception. Washington was " annointed "; to use mercy's terminology.

Jefferson was a hypocrite , a wasterl, and personally irresponsible.

Burr was Clintonian .

Franklin was a womanizer , as well as having other not so nice traits and habits.

That's just for starters. It's an unnecessary waste of bandwidth, to continue ... but fact is prefferable to myth.

[nopardons]

The Skakels were far richer and well connected, than the Kennedys were, when Ethel Skakel married into the Kennedy clan.

Alan Greenspan wasn't anyone much ( as far as your deffinition of " elite " appears to be ) prior to his being made head of the Fed.

FOX ? As in Vincente ? He isn't an American and neither are the Rothchilds. What ... no Windsors ?

Okay, deny your family; it doesn't matter at all to me. Besides, did Caldwell have political and / or that much monetary clout ? NO !

You still haven't fully elained ( you just threw out a few names ) whom you think are the " elite ", nor why you think that they are.

There are far more wealthy , important, and yes, influencial people, than you know the names of. Neither are they " out to get you ", nor to destroy this country.

[nopardons]

Oh, and that list of your's ? The Morgans ? Are you that stupid ? Which Morgans are in government / politics, or even still in banking ? NONE !

I hate to help you , but you aren't even bright enouh, to have thrown in the usual Rockefeller ( used as a slur ) name. I could supply you with many others ( since you desperately need all the help you can get ) , but shan't bother. LOL

[philetus]

You offered refutation, buy you didn't refute anything.

I do understand though, that anybody who doesn't agree with you, is a MARXIST.

[philetus]

your pretty much just a loud mouth arn`t you?