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1 posted on 06/11/2002 8:27:10 AM PDT by BADJOE
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" I recommend we post all attacks to an imaginary Freeper, "Nincompoop"

I like the idea of an "imaginary" target for abuse. A dedicated thread too. Needs a better name then Nincompoop. How about a contest? (you started it!)

2 posted on 06/11/2002 8:35:57 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: BADJOE
Allow a Freeper of 1-1/2 years to comment (mine are in bold).

JimRob and many of us other oldtimers are concerned that the viciousness of the personal attacks are getting out of hand. The continued hyperbole could ultimately destroy our site.

This is what the left wants to do, Destroy this site (and others like it). Keep that in the back of your mind as you respond to leftists.

Let's adapt ridicule, poking fun at our adversaries as the method of choice to blow off steam. I just handled a disruptor on the Freepathon thread this way by asking him if he was bucking for Jim's $1.23 per hour job ( Jim's draw divided by 24/7/365 = $1.23 per hour). And yes , I told him Jim gets that much while sleeping too. The Moderators ultimately banned this poster, but we all had a few good laughs in the process. Ridicule really is the fastest, most effective way to shoot down a jerk. You have to think about how to do it, but if you will, we all will have a lot more fun.

I agree that ridicule and humor are a good way to shoot them down, but with certain hot topics, it is very difficult. The topics of the Middle East (and the Islamic Revisionist History) is a very difficult topic to inject ridicule and/or humor, due to past tragedies. Facts are needed as well, and if the leftists can handle the facts, the moderators know what to do.

A year or so ago I recommened we post all attacks to an imaginary Freeper, "Nincompoop" We could even get this guy his own Home Page, where we could go to look for the best put down of the day, and get many, many chuckles from all the shots this poor turkey will take.

I have a better idea, start a category called "Disruptor Droppings" (or something like that). Let the world see what postings the left brings to us and show how idiotic (or worse) they really are. Make it a category where Freepers know that these people have been banned, so the comment can be discussed but not necessarily toward the disruptor.

3 posted on 06/11/2002 8:37:41 AM PDT by PetroniDE
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Of course, you know what this thread will turn into, don't you? :-)
5 posted on 06/11/2002 8:42:47 AM PDT by TomServo
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OK, JOE, I'll be good, but you're still a masticater!..........FRegards
8 posted on 06/11/2002 8:50:37 AM PDT by gonzo
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Gosh, gee....so, if we all try really, really, REALLY hard...FR mcan be turned into 100% pure pablum? A fun place that the whole family can enjoy. The sky will always be blue, people always smiling, and there will always be hot apple-pie a-la-mode just waiting for the people that drop in. Narry a word will be heard that is spoken in anger because everyone is too busy smiling and just itching to show their bobbing-head acceptance of triteness.

This kind of ridicule?

10 posted on 06/11/2002 8:52:36 AM PDT by beowolf
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If we are forced to clean up our act, then the terrorists have already won. . . .

sarcasm off

11 posted on 06/11/2002 8:52:36 AM PDT by TexasNative2000
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Nincompoop has been banned. Can we attack Lazamataz instead?
12 posted on 06/11/2002 8:52:42 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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And many of the guilty are oldtimers themselves who ought to know better but believe that they've put in many hours and even financially supported FR that they are immune to reasonable decorum.
16 posted on 06/11/2002 8:55:39 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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JimRob and many of us other oldtimers are concerned that the viciousness of the personal attacks are getting out of hand.

Hmm... and I haven't even hardly posted here lately :). But there's vicious, all right. There's even a site where you can watch both the banned and unbanned critters in free and unfettered (and unmoderated) action. Guaranteed to curl your toes and make your hair stand on end.

The continued hyperbole could ultimately destroy our site.

It already very nearly has.

What say you? Can we make this happen?

Doubtful. Some of the worst propagandists on the site ARE obviously oldtimers, and just as obviously not leaving. Left in place, they will carry the site in the same direction as they have carried other sites.

17 posted on 06/11/2002 8:56:03 AM PDT by Cachelot
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(head bobbing back and forth) We arrrrre the worrrllld...we arrrre the chilllldruuuuun...
24 posted on 06/11/2002 9:06:56 AM PDT by A Navy Vet
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Take a look at Kuro5hin.org. The majority of posters are polar opposites. About 2/3 are Socialists and the remaining are either Libertarians or Objectivists. Talk about potential for flamewars! Yet.... Kuro5hin hasn't collapsed, it's still working quite well.

What I think FR needs is a moderation system similar to slashdot's, but for official moderators only. Only 3 ratings: -1, 0, 1. The -1 would be assigned automatically to any post with English profanity. The reason why I think it would have to be official moderators is that I don't think the average joe on FR can be trusted with moderation powers. It would turn into a system of censorship very quickly. What would most likely happen would be a core of hardline rightists would moderate down any comment from someone with an anti-drug war, pro-pornography, etc comment. It would then get nastier when those people start retaliating and moderating down. Before you know it, we'd all have to be surfing at -1 to read anything....

25 posted on 06/11/2002 9:10:10 AM PDT by dheretic
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Problem is conservatism is a huge mess right now. I'm not going to say why because I don't want to summon the flying monkeys to your peaceful and well intended thread.

All I'll say is that it's as if the conservative cause has been ripped exactly in half, and it's not the fault of any FReepers.

28 posted on 06/11/2002 9:16:49 AM PDT by AAABEST
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OKOKOKOK...I'm sorry I called Lazamataz a "poop" the other day...BTT...
31 posted on 06/11/2002 9:27:32 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Good idea - but - some visitor will come across this poor soul "Nincompoop" and think - good grief - what vicious people on FR - look how they treat that poor poster.
32 posted on 06/11/2002 9:28:30 AM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: BADJOE; all

*** ASH ALERT! ***

33 posted on 06/11/2002 9:30:31 AM PDT by dighton
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Now you have to change yourm screen name as you broke the anonymous moderator code.

I don't quite understand your post. Possibly since I missed these disruptor posts.

When you, say this?

"Let's adapt ridicule, poking fun at our adversaries as the method of choice to blow off steam."

You mean Hillary Bill etc... and no more cat fighting about how great (OR NOT) Bush is?

There are those of us who voted for him but don't live every day to post day in the life photos of him and we rightfully question him outloud at times and his policies and we feel stuck in the middle of a flame war, to no avail of discussion.

IMO:There are die hard Bush groupies and die hard Bush haters. Weeding out who is disrupting/attacking and who is debating seems to be the problem. (This applies to the diehard Bush folks -and- the Bush haters.)

35 posted on 06/11/2002 9:32:30 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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I just handled a disruptor on the Freepathon thread this way by asking him if he was bucking for Jim's $1.23 per hour job ( Jim's draw divided by 24/7/365 = $1.23 per hour).

You should really amend your strategy lest the disruptor turn around and ridicule your mathematical abilities.

Regardless of whatever JimRob's "draw" may be, the conversion factor for this calculation should either be 24/7/52 or simply 24/365.

41 posted on 06/11/2002 9:52:16 AM PDT by Willie Green
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I joined FR in 98 under the screen name of CitizenX. I remember more flame wars here than I care to count. In a number of them I tried to defuse the situation by diverting that energy into something constructive. The last time I did that was with THIS THREAD. Also see Post #80 on that thread.

Frankly, I am rather burned out. I rarely post on threads other than the Canteen threads where I feel I can still make a difference. As i said in Post #80, "I fully understand that if we devoted 10% of the time and energy we spend here out there doing something we can restore our Republic.". I still feel that way. However I no longer think that FReepers feel the same way. This is an election year, I do not see the committment needed to clean out the corruption in Congress. We can't even clean out the disrupters on FR.

Sad.

42 posted on 06/11/2002 9:55:40 AM PDT by Mr_Magoo
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Why do the majority of freepers think that abuse is necessary at all?
43 posted on 06/11/2002 9:58:18 AM PDT by stuartcr
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EXAMPLE

Sadly...this is sure to cause a 300 + of posts of a flame war.
50 posted on 06/11/2002 10:04:46 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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