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To: Right Wing Professor
Thanks again.

This is the Daniel Pipes testimony I mentioned in #30. Here's an excerpt:

REP. DOUG OSE (R-CA): Now, I do want to pay a compliment to the State Department. The State Department has posted on its website an advisory to Americans considering marriage to Saudis. But what I don't understand is why that advisory has been taken off the website.

MS. ANDRUCH: I was not aware that it was taken off the website? There's one on Islamic law that's on our website, it's a travel-dot- state-dot-gov.

REP. OSE: Travel-dot-state-dot-gov.

MS. ANDRUCH: Yes sir.

REP. OSE: So, this one that refers specific to Saudi Arabia has or has not been removed?

MS. ANDRUCH: I-I don't know if it's on there right now, so I'll have to check.

REP. OSE: Dr. Pipes?

MR. PIPES: If my recollection is correct, it was taken down at the behest of an Islamic group in the United States.

REP. OSE: It was taken down at the behest of an Islamic group in the United States? Which Islamic group?

MR. PIPES: I believe it was the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

REP. OSE: And with whom did they communicate their interest-

MR. PIPES: They protested this document to the State Department, which proceeded to take it down.

REP. OSE: Well, did they protest it on the basis of inaccurate information?

MR. PIPES: They said it was discriminatory. This is all from memory it was a couple of years ago. I believe they said it was discriminatory.

REP. OSE: Is there information in this material that's inaccurate?

MR. PIPES: I don't think that was their point. I think it was that posting this about marriage to Saudis, as opposed to, say, marriage to Canadians, was discriminatory.

REP. OSE: Have we had any protests about the postings on Sharia?

MR. PIPES: I'm not sure.

Apparently, my recollection -- removed at Saudi insistence -- was half-correct. It was removed, but (according to the Pipes's recollection) under pressure from CAIR. Of course, that doesn't exclude the possibility of Saudi pressure as well.
40 posted on 06/13/2002 4:25:06 PM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton
Interesting. I wonder did CAIR see the abcnews story?

Actually, the point about it being 'discriminatory' is just wrong. The travel.state.gov site has a lot of information for Americans planning to marry nationals of various other countries.

42 posted on 06/13/2002 4:31:30 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: dighton
MR. PIPES: They said it was discriminatory.

Discriminatory? From my time in Kingdom this guide book is an understatement. It paints a grim picture but to me it doesn't go far enough.

45 posted on 06/13/2002 4:56:58 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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