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To: FreeTally
Pure meecrob. Congress is required to declare war with a 2/3 vote and give a "declaration of war".

They passed the Joint Resolution 99-1. The actual State of War was declared by our enemies on September 11th, 2001. You do remember the attacks, don't you? I'd say they were a pretty good indication that a State of War existed.

23 posted on 06/14/2002 11:07:27 AM PDT by SunStar
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To: SunStar
Who are "our enemies?" If you are referring to Bin Laden, we would agree but the "war" was not declared against him as such but against a grab-bag of "terrorism" (presumably including the Tamil tigers, Basque separatists, various Liberian thugs, and various commies and drug lords in Columbia).
32 posted on 06/14/2002 11:11:54 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: SunStar
They passed the Joint Resolution 99-1. The actual State of War was declared by our enemies on September 11th, 2001. You do remember the attacks, don't you? I'd say they were a pretty good indication that a State of War existed.

We are at war when congress decalres war. Thats the only way the Prez gets Executive War Powers. We were at a "state of war' when the Japs bombed Peral Harbor, but Congress declared war. Why? They recongized they had no other option.

36 posted on 06/14/2002 11:13:42 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: SunStar
The actual State of War was declared by our enemies on September 11th, 2001. You do remember the attacks, don't you?

I remember many attacks. On December 12, 1937, Japanese government aircraft sank the USS Panay in the Yangtze River, killing American sailors in the process. On October 31, 1941, the USS Reuben James was sunk by a German submarine, killing 115 Americans.

Care to tell us when the United States declared war against Japan and Germany? Was it December 12, 1937, and October 31, 1941, respectively? Or was it December 8 and December 11, 1941 – when Congress issued resolutions:

Declaring that a state of war exists between the Imperial Government of Japan and the Government and the people of the United States...”

...and...

Declaring that a state of war exists between the Government of Germany and the government and the people of the United States...”

Which is it – December 1937, or December 1941? Hmm?

FWIW, it seems to me that our current batch of ‘Congress-persons’ and ‘Senate-persons’ appear to be interested primarily in avoiding their constitutional responsibilities. Such responsibilities tend to be, after all, the subjects of controversy. Russia could nuke 'The City of Brotherly Love' on Christmas Day, while the Pope was visiting, and our federal representatives would still let the President carry the ball - just to avoid any chance that a real ‘declaration of war’ might offend their constituents and impair their chances for re-election...

;>)

182 posted on 06/14/2002 4:02:50 PM PDT by Who is John Galt?
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