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To: SunStar
I guess we need to turn the other cheek and let the terrorists nail us again .. and again ... The couple of constitution law toting fellas in here don't seem to get that lil piece of it and how they play into it. I could care less if a declaration is made formally or not, if it was insurance driven, so be it. Im shur Congre$$ would make everythng all better insurance wise in the end.

The undeniable fact is people were vaporized on 9-11 never to be seen again on this good earth. The hand wringers seem more concerned about details and an properly orchestrated sequence of events then wiping this terrorist vermin from this earth. This Orwellian talk is nothing but a bunch of hooey.
63 posted on 06/14/2002 11:33:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
The hand wringers seem more concerned about details and an properly orchestrated sequence of events then wiping this terrorist vermin from this earth.

Yep! Just like the constitution points out. We are evil people, I tell 'ya.

Terrorism has existed since the beginning of time. It is caused by fanatics responding to foreign governments poking their noses into the affairs of other countries.

66 posted on 06/14/2002 11:36:55 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: NormsRevenge
I guess we need to turn the other cheek and let the terrorists nail us again .. and again ...

Um no. We want a declaration of war. Usually that is followed by lots of our solders killing the enemy. Declaring war isn't "turning the other cheek", ya think?

if it was insurance driven, so be it

We ignore the Constitution, paid for with the blood of our founders, over a freakin insurance policy, and you're ok with that. I think I'm going to be sick.

This Orwellian talk

Oh, there's some Orwellian talk going on alright. "War is Peace". That's the message here. Unofficial, unending war is the entire cornerstone of "1984". Here, read it for yourself:

1984

69 posted on 06/14/2002 11:40:50 AM PDT by freeeee
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To: NormsRevenge
This Orwellian talk is nothing but a bunch of hooey

Norm, Norm, Norm...

First it was military tribunals. When sh_t hit the fan over that, the administration swore that this was NEVER for US citizens.

A few weeks later, Padilla, a US citizen, is held purportedly for military tribunal. When the heat came down for that, it was changed to simply holding him indefinately without charging him with a crime.

Under the Patriot Act, anyone who meets some very subjective criteria can be denied all rights due a citizen because the DoJ simply has to declare him a potential terrorist.

It won't be today, tomorrow, or next month, but soon there will be more an more people and groups who will be included in the definition of Enemy of the State. And it may very well be anyone and everyone affiliated with any group whose members or participants do not fully and unequivocably support the President's agenda. And since FR has critics of the President, and YOU are affiliated with FR, YOU could be included. Innocent, you say? Prove it.

109 posted on 06/14/2002 12:38:02 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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