Posted on 06/16/2002 5:32:24 AM PDT by magnum opus dejure
And I believe that states should have the right to decide how the representatives and senators for that state are chosen.
Politicians in Washington have too much power. How many of you on this site would disagree with that statement?Not I.
I would ask you how do you think they acquire power? One of the ways is by seniority.Here is where your logic breaks down.
Politicians in aggregate have too much power. But seniority increases (or can increase) the power of an individual politician relative to other politicians.
Term limits may possibly help in cutting down the power one politician can accumulate via seniority. It does nothing to prevent or minimize the power of politicians in aggregate.
Besides, there are term limits already. The good Lord put an expiration date on us all.
For every Byrd that term limits would get, there is a Thurmond. For every Kennedy, a Helms.
Ironically, since entrenched incumbents generally only get token opposition, term limits would cut down on such races, which would lead to an increase in the amount of special interest money pouring in to the races.
You want real reform? Make it that Senators aren't elected, back to the way it was originally. All that special interest money used to influence the election of Senators just goes away. And if the Senate can't be bought, why would the special interests even try to buy the House?
You sound as though you might have been in favor of William Jefferson Clinton running for and winning a third term.No, I would have opposed this. Just as I opposed him when he first ran and when he ran again.
I would have supported a third Reagan term, if he had run and if his health had held out.
Our country survived a pretty long time without the two term limit on the Presidency.
Don't get me wrong, I am not sitting here stewing going "damn, I wish there was not a Presidential term limit". I don't think it is a big deal either way (as I said, there are God imposed term limits). But, I don't think term limits are the answer, and would probably be a small net negative in impact if enacted.
BTW,Ramsey Clark IS a communist.
And yet, you sound identical to him on this forum. Now, a smart person who has it pointed out that ever comment he makes in a particular setting is similar to what a leftist propagandist would say might wonder where he went wrong or if maybe he and people like him are being used by the left. But not super sneaky Pete. He can bluster and rant and try to intimidate, and claim that it isn't he but rather the messenger who is dim. But he can't handle the truth.
Call me a shill for "Bubba 2" all you like. I am sure Ramsey Clark wouldn't be a big fan of me either.
Yet another thing you two share.
You, who keep showing up on this thread, are not wasfree.
You also are wasting your time. Eventually, you will realize that. How much time have you spent today trying to be a pest? If it was more than even 5 minutes, then you are behind in the deal.
Yes, and the Constitution as passed by the Founders did not impose a two term limit. That was a precedent established by George Washington. And it served us well that it was honored by all presidents prior to FDR. FDR was a disaster. It was his violation of the two term precedent that gave us socialism in the United States on a firm foundation and it has been down hill every since. You just made the case for term limits. It was no accident that the Constitution was amended to ensure that no president would ever again serve more than two terms.
Regardless of what you think or want, even if we turn the country around now successfully, the United States is not going to survive if we do not correct this particular error handed down to us by the Founders. Term limits for members of Congress and for the Federal judiciary are essential if the nation is to survive. Those of you who disagree are entitled to your opionions and those opinions are backed by the Constitution and existing law. But your opinion and the Founders were wrong. Those who do not learn from the mistakes of history, will continue to repeat them.
Have you actually ever tried to convert a Democrat or a liberal? If you think trying to have a discussion with hard-headed Freepers is tough, take on a Democrat. The first requirement for being a Democrat is a suspension of reality. Democrats are fundamentally irrational in the sense that they have to ignore the facts in order to make the emotional decisions and judgments that the facts won't support.
I have spent untold hours and many approaches trying to find the winning argument that will convert Democrats to conservative thinking. My experience suggests that you are not going to have much luck on that score.
I don't intend to ever again live under a government completely controlled by Democrats. We are either going to have defeat them politically, secede and live in separate countries or...Actually it would be better not to discuss the other options, as only the first two are probably acceptable to most Americans at this point in time. When the federal budget begins to become progressively very problematic after 2008 and especially after 2012, who knows how volatile things could become.
The first requirement for being a Democrat is a suspension of reality.LOL Now on that, I agree.
I actually think that by the time people get into their 40s, you pretty much aren't going to get them to change parties unless they are Jim Jeffords.
The way to change prospects is with youth. They vote more and more the older they get. So we just probably have to figure out a way to get 'em young.
The Democrats recognized that. That is why they took over public education and we now have a dumbed down America incapable of making rational decisions on many fronts. I hope you will review the numbers on the Cato web site and the many other web sites that provide financial data that will allow you to compute for yourself the retirement curves for future generations of America in a financial world with a declining dollar and a global economy operating at lower levels than most people who still believe the bull market of the late nineties is coming back and going to last forever. Depression is a far more likely event than a return to the bull market from 1995-2000. Stagflation is a far more likely scenario until the problems begin really maturing from 2008 and on into 2012 and beyond. There simply isn't time to grow generations of informed voters.
I am trying to wield a 2x4 between the eyes of the participants on FreeRepublic. The normal tendency is to think things are going to go on forever like they always have in the past and that everything is going to work out in the end. This time it's different. Our tomorrows are actually numbered. And there aren't that many of them. If we can get the attention of Freepers, maybe we can get the attention of the Republicans in Congress and some of the leaders in the administration. The President may think that getting along with Democrats and compassionate conservatism are good political debating topics, but in truth they are losers. And they are awful policy. The very last thing we want to do is get along with Democrats. Democrats are to be defeated in every way on every issue all the time. When Democrats win compromises on anything, we are moving in the wrong direction. And we have no more room to move in their direction. We cannot afford to move any direction, but to the right. And the sooner we take this stand and the more often we can shout and explain it to the people, the more likely they are to eventually understand. No more Compromises. If our leaders cave, the public will perceive this as an admission that the Democrats are right or that the Democrat's little small incremental steps to socialism are OK. If Freepers can't grasp these concepts, then we are in real trouble.
Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. And we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah!
Hoo-No!
Because I get from the Admin Moderator:
You also are wasting your time. Eventually, you will realize that. How much time have you spent today trying to be a pest? If it was more than even 5 minutes, then you are behind in the deal.
That is the first bit of truth. This site isn't interested in cleaning up corruption in government any more than I am interested in the political banter I see here. I'm told I'm wasting my time here and I truly believe it. The key piece to this is conservatism. To me that's a disease that runs rampant throughout this forum. Conservatism, from what I've gathered, causes people to ignore what's important for what is being pushed, and I for one want nothing to do with it. So indeed I AM wasting my time. Thank you for finally speaking some truth.
Delete away Admin Moderator, but doing so is protecting a disease that needs to cured.
I am trying to wield a 2x4 between the eyes of the participants on FreeRepublic.The people on Free Republic are conservative allies. You may think they are misguided, but one thing I do know in life is that if you hit a bunch of people with 2x4s, you may wake up a few but you are going to turn many more than you wake up into adversaries. And when we are trying to build up a coalition in a divided country, we can't afford to be turning allies into adversaries.
IMO.
"1. The forum associated with Michael Reagan kicked me out.
2. Free Republic has kicked me out.
3. Town Hall has kicked me out.
4. The forum associated with Alan Keyes has kicked me out.
5. Philosphers' Corner didn't kick me out but did constantly delete my posts, effectively censoring any thing I said.
You know, you lasted for almost a year and over 600 replies in one of your dozens of incarnations. Another of your incarnations (which was active at the same time as the other) had over two thousand (were you trying to make yourself appear to be more than one person?).
You felt compelled to keep spamming your stuff to threads repeatedly where it was off topic. The DC chapter posts a thread about their rally, and you posted dozens of links all back to one thread that you just really wanted everyone to see. Since people weren't reading it of their own volition, you wanted them to have to see it. Free Republic does not exist for you to demand an audience. You were given warnings by Jim to knock it off, and you didn't. Now you are banned, and you are whining about it.
Look at the list of places you have been kicked off from. Here's a hint, the problem isn't them.
And how about that Helen Thomas? And Barbara Striesand.. we should ONLY BE SO LUCKY that they would go away forever, sigh....
What is the moral stature of those who are afraid to proclaim that they are the champions of freedom? What is the integrity of those who outdo their enemies in smearing, misrepresenting, spitting at, and apologizing for their own ideal? What is the rationality of those who expect to trick people into freedom , cheat them into justice, fool them into progress, con them into preserving their rights, and while indoctrinating them with statism, put one over on them and let them wake up in a perfect capitalist society some morning?
--Ayn Rand
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