Judge Won't Dismiss Walker's Indictment

Fox News ^ | June 17, 2002

[scarface367]

ALEXANDRIA, Va.

[olivia3boys]

Good. I heard some of the defense claims this morning on the radio and they just seemed ALL so ridiculous.

[B4Ranch]

I will give him a fair trial. That's a promise to him and every other Muslim. Please put me on your jury selection list.

[Grut]

Well, it's a lynching. Not that Lindh isn't guilty of something, if only poor judgement, but the government is going to hustle him onto that railroad train with a brass band playing "How Great We Are".

The poor schmuck hasn't a snowball's chance.

[Fish out of Water]

*Index Bump

[Young Werther]

So he wants to be treated as a soldier?

(1)To whom had he sworn allegiance.

(2)Where were his uniform and insignia as called for under the Geneva Convention.

Action # 1 means that he has relinquished his citizenship. Ergo, assign him to a military tribunal.

Action # 2 means he can be prosecuted as a spy. Hang his sorry Taliban ^SS!

[xJones]

The poor schmuck hasn't a snowball's chance.

It could be worse. He could be a Christian activist in a Muslim country. He'd be dead already and the music would be worse.

[PUGACHEV]

You've got that right. Not that I have the least sympathy for JWL. In fact, like they used to say in those old westerns, "Hanging is too for 'em." But, all that aside, his attorney is making it 10 times worse: this is not the loony tunes 9th Circuit, it's the EDVA. A quiet approach by one of the "old boy" local attorneys, a decision to reduce the level of confrontation and publicity, would have saved the family a great deal of money and JWL 10 to 15 years in prison. In an abstract way, it is wonderful to see a self-inflated California type attorney used to Judge Ito types get his head handed to him by a real judge like Ellis; and if he thinks Ellis is bad, wait until he encounters EDVA juries.

And if anyone thinks that Brosnahan is cleverly making a record for appeal they are profoundly mistaken. From here the case would go to the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals, and from there to the SCOTUS. The sad truth for JWL and his family is that Ellis is the mosy liberal judge that will ever get to rule on the case.

[Right_in_Virginia]

"The poor schmuck hasn't a snowball's chance."

Forgive me for asking, but---is this sarcasm?

[300winmag]

So he wants to be treated as a soldier?

Like any other liberal, Johnny Jihad wants it both ways. He's an American, with constitutional rights. He's also a soldier in a foreign army, and wants his Geneva Convention rights. He's also a muslim, and wants his islamic rights. And he wants all three sets of rights at the same time, so he can pick and choose what suits him best. In reality, he's a brigand, and gets only those rights that we might choose to bestow, or deny, at our choosing.

[DontMessWithMyCountry]

I'm scheduled for jury duty first week of September this year. Hey, I'd be glaaaaaaaad to have his venue changed to Marxachusetts....and to have the trial commence here that week ;-) I'll make myself available indefinitely to provide a part of this Model Traitor's Citizen's Fair and Impartial Jury.

One good thing he's done (and it surely isn't because he planned it that way)...i can never, ever, ever, hear that coward/traitor's name without also remembering a true American--Johnny Spann. Does having a good memory preclude someone, legally, from being 'impartial'? I think Walker's defense attorneys tried that angle. Kudos to Judge Ellis for standing his ground. This low-life, Walker-Lindh, wants 'special treatment' because he's (allegedly) an American, even though he spit on America; he doesn't think he should go through a military tribunal because he conveniently remembered he was American; now he thinks he has a right to manipulate our legal system to protect him from the justice the American legal system is supposed to provide to citizens.

I kind of like to think of impartiality as balancing both sides of the facts: on one side, on November 25, 2001, John Walker-Lindh was captured (and interviewed by John Michael Spann); on the other side, on November 25, 2001, shortly thereafter, John Michael Spann was viciously murdered by John Walker-Lindh's Taliban comrades.

[M. Thatcher]

Well, it's a lynching.

Yeah, right. Every lynching I've ever read about went through months of pretrial hearings and motions.

Buy a dictionary.

[Senator Pardek]

Hey - thank your lucky stars Grut did not say "it's a form of terrorism".

[Ronin]

The defense has to try something. But they probably all know that it's pretty much futile. No jury in the U.S. is going to give that guy a walk.

[parsifal]

The DOJ should pay attention to the dog mauling trial. Verdicts get overturned when cases are over-prosecuted I even heard one cretin calling in to FOX today who said Jihad Johnny should be turned over to the families of the soldiers he killed. Talk about a lynch mob. parsy.

[No Truce With Kings]

The DOJ should pay attention to the dog mauling trial. Verdicts get overturned when cases are over-prosecuted.

(1) The dog-mauling case was tried in the state courts of California. That is the Granola State (mostly nuts and flakes.) Taliban John is being tried in Federal court. Bi-i-i-g difference. He isn't gonna get California justice in a Federal court, thank God.

(2) They have a solid case against this Talitubby. Not just the law, but the facts are ag'in him. The only reason they cannot try him for treason is the two eye witness clause in the Constitution which raises the bar on prosecution. However, they have more than enough to convict him of criminal conspiracy, mayhem, etc.

The Taliban and Al Qaeda are not lawful combatants. He has the same status as a pirate captured in the act. His lawyers' behavior can be attributed to an aphorism taught to first-year law students. When the law is on your side, argue the law. When the facts are on your side, argue the facts. If neither the facts or the law are on your side, pound the table and make a lot of commotion. They certainly are doing that.

To quote Obi Wan Kenobi, from Star Wars, "Weak minds are easily swayed." So the lawyers are succeeding in convincing the stupid among us that Taliban John really has a case.

[Grut]

Yeah, right. Every lynching I've ever read about went through months of pretrial hearings and motions.

OK, it's not a lynching, it's a show trial. They're still going to find him guilty of everything back to the temptation of Eve and they're still going to beat the bejesus out of their big base drum while they do it.

[M. Thatcher]

Poor wittle Taliban. He has to be on trial in the United States. Where dozens of Grut types will hold candlelight vigils.

[Young Werther]

"he's a brigand"

Exactly why I believe that the piracy laws should be used. Reed, the shoe bomber, should be tried, convicted and swung from the yard arm of the USS Constitution. That would be one heck of a 4th of July ceremony. Let those pirates know what they face!