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Rape bill angers Malaysian women (more fun from the world of Islam)
BBC ^ | 17 June 2002 | Mangai Balasegaram

Posted on 06/17/2002 9:38:16 PM PDT by July 4th

Women's groups in Malaysia are fighting a controversial bill proposed by an Islamic party which states that four male Muslim witnesses are needed to prove a rape.

The bill on Sharia law - the strict Islamic law - has been proposed by the government of Terengganu, a rural state in the north-east run by the opposition Islamic party, PAS.

The party has declared it wants to set up an "Islamic state".

The bill is set to face stiff opposition from the federal government led by Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad when it is tabled in the state assembly next month.

It is also facing legal challenges as, under the constitution, crime is a federal matter under the Penal Code.

About a dozen women's groups have formed a joint action committee to fight the bill, which they say is "perversely unjust".

The bill's original draft states that those who renounce their faith should be put to death, and that unmarried women who become pregnant - regardless of rape - should be whipped or stoned to death.

Sisters of Islam (Sis), which has lobbied Pas leaders on the issue, says the bill is a "total distortion" of Islamic law.

It argues that the original provision for four witnesses in hudood law was to protect women against accusations of adultery, noting that a wife of Prophet Mohamad was accused of adultery.

"This is man-made. It's barbaric," said Sharifah Zuriah Aljeffri, a founding member of Sis. "God is all-forgiving and all-merciful in the Koran. That never comes up in this bill. All they talk about is punishment."

Ivy Josiah, executive director of the Women's Aid Organisation said the bill was "clearly misogynistic".

"There's a lot of fear that women are becoming equal to men," she said.

Terengganu's Chief Minister Mr Abdul Hadi Awang, who is also deputy president of PAS, has said the bill has been amended to take account of objections by women. But the details will not be made public until the bill is tabled on 7 July at the Terengganu State Assembly.

Political analysts say PAS is seeking to gain political mileage over Dr Mahathir's United Malays National Organization (Umno) party ahead of general elections due in 2004.

"They want to show that they are the better Muslims," said Nur Jazlan, an Umno youth council member. "This is the problem within Islam nowadays.

"Everyone is saying 'My version is better than yours'."

Religion has long been a basis for party politics in PAS, which gained strength following the sacking and jailing of former Deputy Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim in 1998. The party won control of two of 13 states in the 1999 election.

However, the 11 September terror attacks on the US has changed Malaysia's political balance. Dr Mahathir has consolidated his position as a moderate Muslim, gaining support among moderate Muslims and non-Muslims in the country, and strengthening ties abroad.

Earlier this month, he met Pope John Paul II to discuss peace initiatives in the Middle East.

PAS, however, was badly affected after the arrest of several suspected militants with ties to the party. Analysts say the party is no longer trying to win non-Muslim votes and is now concentrating on Islamic politics.

"They're targeting their own people in doing this," said Mr Jazlan.

Ms Sharifah Zuriah said although PAS would probably not be able to implement the bill, given the opposition against it, the fact that they were trying to do so was alarming.

"After this, what's next?" she said.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; malaysia
Defenders of this religion need to have their head examined.
1 posted on 06/17/2002 9:38:16 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: July 4th
WJC might go along with some of this.....4 witnesses to a rape.
2 posted on 06/17/2002 9:49:43 PM PDT by umgud
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To: July 4th
Yes, sign me up to visit that country; as long as I have four men following me around in case I am raped to "help" me prosecute those that harmed me for life. Give me a break!!!!! I am very troubled to read that article. God bless the women who have to live in that society! And may God help the men over there to instill in their hearts that rape is not okay!!!!
3 posted on 06/17/2002 9:56:12 PM PDT by RepublicanChick
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To: RepublicanChick
Let's not even talk about a certain little surgical procedure inflicted on screaming girls with a rusty razor blade.
4 posted on 06/17/2002 9:59:04 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
The UN and there ilks screams bloody murder at us for not giving the camp X-ray scum 1st class hotel suites but it's been a couple years since I've heard them scream about this barbarism.

Not for the squeamish Women and Islam.
5 posted on 06/17/2002 10:23:30 PM PDT by lizma
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To: lizma
Islam is an insane death cult. Anyone who has not grasped that fact yet is hopelessly naive or willfully ignorant.
6 posted on 06/17/2002 10:35:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: July 4th
"states that four male Muslim witnesses are needed to prove a rape."

In other words, liscense to rape at will.

7 posted on 06/17/2002 10:46:48 PM PDT by brat
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To: July 4th
"This is man-made. It's barbaric," said Sharifah Zuriah Aljeffri, a founding member of Sis. "God is all-forgiving and all-merciful in the Koran. That never comes up in this bill.

Koran, sura 004.015
As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of the allegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them or (until) Allah appoint for them a way (through new legislation).

024.006
As for those who accuse their wives but have no witnesses except themselves; let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies, (swearing) by Allah that he is of those who speak the truth

God is all-forgiving and all-merciful in the Koran

004. 034
Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.

8 posted on 06/18/2002 3:41:29 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: July 4th
thats why 4 out of 5 thugs in prison prefer islam

islam the religion of prison
9 posted on 06/18/2002 3:47:35 AM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Travis McGee
Yes, you have a very good point, a sickening one at that, sorry, not your fault at all! I don't know which is worse? Rape or female circumcision? It is a horror to think about those poor girls having to withstand "either, or." Thank God I live in the great USA! Unfortunately, rape does occur in this country a heck of a lot more than I would like, but to live in that type of society?? No thanks. However, it is wonderful, that you, recognizes what other women are going through in the rest of the world that is so barbaric!
10 posted on 06/18/2002 9:50:05 PM PDT by RepublicanChick
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To: RepublicanChick
At least in this nation rapists are not smug grinning buddies having a good time without fear, and women are not killed for getting pregnent if raped.

And most men would cheerfully bash in the skull of any rapist they met. I would.

11 posted on 06/19/2002 7:31:47 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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