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To: Illbay
To me, the REALLY "reckless" thing would be to insist that the Jose Padillas of the world get a "fair civil trial" and that law enforcement agencies shall not take steps to protect us because someone's phone conversation with Aunt Flo (or an illicit lover) might be compromised.

Your solution is far worse than reckless. Padillas is a US citizen. In that regard he is equal to both of us. If you want to strip him of his citizenship and try him in a military court, I'm good with that. If you want to treat him unconstitutionally because you don't like his crime, I have a problem with that.

Are there any other LE powers that you would like to see exapnded other than the universal phone tap?

18 posted on 06/18/2002 7:22:43 AM PDT by Joe Driscoll
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To: Joe Driscoll
If you want to treat him unconstitutionally because you don't like his crime, I have a problem with that.

Cmon, we all know it's not that people don't like his crime (err, actually, the crime he's accused of planning, not that he actually did) it's that he's Hispanic, and more importantly, Muslim.

If 6 months after OKC Clinton had arrested some trailer-trash white guy named Billy Bob for planning a dirty bomb attack on DC, and done the same stuff to him as has been done to Padilla, people would have gone absolutely bonkers, including the people who think anyone even with the slightest CONCERN about how Padilla is currently being handled is some sort of traitor.

21 posted on 06/18/2002 7:45:52 AM PDT by John H K
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To: Joe Driscoll
Padillas is a US citizen. In that regard he is equal to both of us.

First of all, are you aware that the constitution ITSELF allows the Executive to suspend habeas corpus in time of national emergency?

Are you one of those who, like the Democrats and most of the media, have gone back to sleep after we "won" in Afghanistan?

What's it going to take for you to understand what we're facing here?

Another attack? I believe one is coming, so why don't you just hold you ire for a couple of months more. Then, if something or someone gets blown up--I hope it isn't you or someone close to you--maybe you can begin to catch a glimpse.

If this generation had been in World War II we'd all be speaking German.

25 posted on 06/18/2002 8:30:29 AM PDT by Illbay
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