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To: Elkiejg
As far as I'm concerned as soon as anyone, citizen or not, takes up arms or plots with terrorists against this country - they lose any "civil" rights they have as a citizen. This is a new world we are now living in since 9-11. The radicals are using our freedoms against us and some are too stupid or blind to see this.

"Those that sacrifice freedom for safety deserve neither" - I'm paraphrasing a bit, but the Franklin message is the same.

Your ranting is the same sort of ranting that McCarthy and his cronies gave us in the 50's. The founding fathers built the Constitution in such a way as to deal with this sort of crisis. No, they did not forsee terrorists, but they did forsee sedition and rebelious persons who would act in a way contrary to the interest of the nation as a whole. They forsaw traitors, and they developed a way to deal with them.

A charge of treason could easily be brought against Mr. Padilla. The associated delays would tie his butt up in jail for many moons while the lawyers argued about it. A simultaneous contempt of court charge would take care of the search for information that the government is using him for. If we don't do this properly, it will put us all at risk. Not only that, if we continue down this path, the bad guys have already won a round. It becomes a matter of winning the war, but at what cost? We can win this without compromising our liberties, our principles or our freedom. My biggest question is do we want to? To look back at your answer, I can safely say that you don't.

55 posted on 06/18/2002 10:10:44 AM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking
The law of the land says that Padilla is and can be classified an enemy combatant and held until hostilities cease. That you are unaware of that fact concerns me but not too much.
62 posted on 06/18/2002 10:17:42 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: mhking
I agree with a lot you are saying, but why do people still use McCarthy as a whip. The information coming out now, years later and info from the KGB supports what McCarthy was saying. Many of these people were communists and even some who were communists have spoken out since. Was he an opportunist? Probably, but in hindsight, from what I have read, he had something and they neutralized him by making him a laughing stock and people are still falling for it.
88 posted on 06/18/2002 11:16:38 AM PDT by nanny
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