[Wonder Warthog]

"As far as I'm concerned as soon as anyone, citizen or not, takes up arms or plots with terrorists against this country - they lose any "civil" rights they have as a citizen. This is a new world we are now living in since 9-11. The radicals are using our freedoms against us and some are too stupid or blind to see this."

The problem with this is FIRST YOU HAVE TO PROVE THEY DID IT! That is the fundamental tenet of our legal system--assumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. I don't have a problem with not extending full civil rights to NON-CITIZENS, as they are here on sufferance--but any US citizen should be given the same legal rights as another citizen. Yes, it is a "bit" more trouble to do so, but any other course leads directly to Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot.

[Teacher317]

Well said. When the Daschle/McAuliffe/Clinton/Teddy Democrats next get the White House, they would absolutely LOVE to use the imprison-without-rights precedent. The FBI already has right-wing Constitution-supporters as a potential terrorist group (gotta find that Arizona pamphlet again). How many Freepers who were actively "freeping" Hitlary would disappear for years for the "threat" they present to Her Despottedness?

[jackbill]

but any US citizen should be given the same legal rights as another citizen. Yes, it is a "bit" more trouble to do so, but any other course leads directly to Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot.

In 1942, we tried eight German saboteurs before a military tribunal. Two of the eight were American citizens. One was executed - the day after the verdict was read.

I don't see where that led us to "Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot".

I suspect that once the full scale of number of "Americans" who are willing to perform terriorist acts on their fellow citizens is known, a lot more people will be calling for removing some of their "civil rights".