[PJ-Comix]

Yet another twist in this bizarre case. I wonder if Eldon Elliot was ORDERED to keep mum.

[PJ-Comix]

FYI

[Fred Mertz]

FYI

[ex-Texan]

Perhaps there is another reason:

McVeigh Conspiracy?

Not that I am a believer in conspiracies myself.

[sport]

He probably wants to continue living.
Diviating from the party line [Mc Veigh acted alone]has been known to be harmful to one's health.

[sam_paine]

The tragedy is that any logical person cannot discount the possibility that the goobermint could/would do such a thing.

After the bungles in the 9-11 Phoenix/Minn. memos, the missed documents in the McVeigh case, the obvious turf battles between bureaucrats, it seems very plausible indeed that there were Federals involved or aware officially or otherwise of the plot, and perhaps participated, but in any event did not prevent it.

Very sad. And because Lee would not listen to Longstreet, we no longer have the option of secession!

[hang 'em]

Clinton would NEVER have been reelected without the OKC bombing and the anti-conservative hysteria he fanned in its wake. Remember, he blamed right wing anti-government talk radio (i.e. Rush Limbaugh) for the tragedy. It would not suprise me to find out Clinton ordered FBI chief Luis Freeh to suppress any evidence of a connection to Islamic terrorism. What's the latin phrase for "who benefits"?

[Snowy]

Suppose this guy was in with McVeigh. What would be McVeigh's motivation to keep quiet? Maybe it's obvious and I just am not awake yet....

[takenoprisoner]

Coincidence? John Doe2 and Padilla...two different totally unrelated "american" terrorists bent on destruction of innocent life who just happen to look identical? I don't know, what are the odds on this?

[Dixie Mom]

Thanks for the flag, PJ. Very interesting--another good find. It seems to me that if there was nothing to the story, Elliott would be free to say so. Instead he retains an attorney and withholds comment. I'm off to add another layer of foil to my helmet. ;)

[Grampa Dave]

Just another interesting twist in this weird situation.

[rwfromkansas]

Wow.

[weegee]

I thought that he had changed his story awhile back to say that there was no #2 guy; that the guy was a separate customer on a different day. Or am I thinking of someone else who saw the Ryder truck.

[honway]

http://www.cnn.com/US/9702/18/okc.update/index.html

Witnesses recall 2 men in truck rental office

Two eyewitnesses testified Tuesday they still believe a second man was with McVeigh when he rented the truck.

Thomas Kessinger, a mechanic at the Ryder Truck shop in Junction City, Kansas, admitted he described the wrong man in helping the FBI draw its sketch of the second man, identified in court as John Doe No. 2.

But when McVeigh's lawyer asked him if someone else had been with McVeigh, Kessinger said, "Yes, I thought there was."

"And you think that today?" asked McVeigh's attorney, Stephen Jones.

"Yes," Kessinger replied. Shop owner Eldon Elliott testified that he, too, saw a second man in his office. "There was another person in there, yes," Elliott said under defense questioning. However he said he could not describe the second man

[honway]

On April 19, 1995, FBI visual information specialist Vince Rozycki arrived at Fort Riley, Kansas in order to prepare composite drawings of Unknown Subject One and Unknown Subject Two (TR:10547:4-6). At approximately 2:00 a.m. on April 20, 1995, Mr. Rozycki met with Special Agent Scott Crabtree (TR:10547:14-24). Crabtree told Rozycki that Tom Kessinger had the most complete knowledge of the description of the two individuals (TR:10548:19-10549:3). Kessinger told Rozycki that Unknown Subject One (the renter of the Ryder truck) had a long head, a crew-cut, a crease in his chin, close set eyes, was clean shaven, 5'-10" inches tall and approximately 175-185 pounds. He described Kling as having a slender build, a rough complexion with acne, light brown hair, and twenty-seven to thirty years of age. He said that Kling was wearing green fatigues and a dark t-shirt (TR:10552:10-23).

Kessinger described the second subject as five 5'-10" inches tall, clean shaven, muscular, large arms, large chest, smooth complexion, dark hair, thick neck, wide chin. Kessinger said that "John Doe Two" was wearing a blue and white ball cap, blue jeans, black t-shirt, and white tennis shoes. Kessinger said the subject had a tattoo on his left upper arm (TR:10553:20-10554:1).

From CourtTV McVeigh Appeal Documents

[AtticusX]

According to Tom Kessinger, the mechanic at Elliot's Body shop, John Doe 2 had a tatoo on his upper left arm.

If DirtyBomber has a tatoo, he's still in the running for the esteemed John Doe 2 title. If he doesn't, then he's out of the game. (Unless he has a scar from a tatoo removal on his upper left arm.)

One and a half years after the bombing, after 7 debriefings by the FBI, FBI agents say that Kessinger said that he had confused the face of John Doe 2 with Private Bunting.

But when he was visited by Glenn Wilburn in the summer of 1996, Kessinger laughed about it and said, “I don’t know where they came up with that one.”

In any case, he refused to go through with the deception when questioned under oath. During the pretrial hearings in Denver in February 1997 he repeated his claim that McVeigh was accompanied by another man. The Justice Department decided to drop him as a trial witness.

Stay safe,

Atticus

[_Jim]

-Developing-

Overplayed ...

[_Jim]

There was a VERY GOOD full-frame/full-screen color picture of Paddillo on NBC evening news yesterday (Wednesday, 2002-06-19) -

- did ANYBODY here happen to catch that?

Did you notice this man's (Padillo's) A) complexion and B) his hair type and texture?

[honway]

Tim McVeigh and a composite sketch released by the FBI on May 1,1995, of John Doe 2