Does this mean you're going to have nice discussions with skinheads, or is it safe to view them as losers who took themselves out of the pool of potential conversation/debate partners by virtue of their political choices?
These two in question have prostituted themselves to a failed cause to the point where anything they say is useless to me - I'm sorry, but they could tell me Tuesday comes after Monday and I wouldn't act on that information until I looked at a calendar.
Actually as you mentioned it, I did have once a nice conversation with some Slovenian skinheads (by pure coincidence) together with a friend (a Serb) that wanted to put some sense in them. I feared the worst, but nothing actually happened, it all stayed in the aree of debate (even without shouting let alone violence). I have absolutely no understanding for their mentality or actions, I find their views disgusting, but that doesn't mean I consider them monsters. Unless of course when it wouldn't manifestate only in words but also in actions (such as beating foreigners, people of other races or just anyone they disagree with). That's where the line is crossed. When physical violence is at play. What is even more scary is that some of them actually can be very intelligent (highly educated), even rational people when talking about regular things that you can even agree with, but when it's about race, foreigners they completely lose it. And the same goes for people claiming to be communists, socialists etc..
You may disagree with their ideology, but that doesn't mean they may be always wrong or that you can easily dismiss anything they might point out. Especially since it may not have much to do with their ideology, views. I guess this is my weakness, finding the good in people that I normally never would agree with. Just as I have been surprised (positively) by some people here on FR, that initially gave me an impression of intolerant, even hateful (towards certain people) through their posts while later finding out that it was only because of the specific topic that I had the impression. Overall they can be quite allright. I think you get the picture :)