[editor-surveyor]

Here we are on June 20, when a normal temperature on a sunny day here would be about 100 degrees, and the high today was 72. - The geeks on the radio were all griping about the 'heat.'

[backhoe]

Funny you mention that.... here in south Georgia, at this time we have usually been well into the summer heat wave- running the AC's all the time and watching the electric bills like a hawk. So far, the weather has been mild, cooling into the 60's & 70's at night, which really reduces the heat load on the house.

Winter was comparably mild- it never got to the seemingly endless days with heaters lit everywhere to keep the chill off. Instead, we just ran a space heater in the room we were in at the time.

The real bottom line on all this stuff is that we simply do not have enough good, complex data over a long enough period of time to know what the "H" we are doing- or even what to do.

Since the Sun accounts for around 99.9% of the total mass within the Solar System, I strongly suspect the Sun is the prime operator behind Earth's climate, and that nothing we do will or can affect it much- if at all.

[Grampa Dave]

Here is reality about the burning up in Alaska from one of our own freepers:

To: headsonpikes

Less than two decades would elapse in covering the North with the beginnings of an ice-cap.

It might take nothing more than one summer that doesn't happen. A few years ago here in Fairbanks it snowed fairly heavily right after Labor Day. Power lines were down, leaves froze in place on trees. Odd thing is, it never even once got above freezing again until spring, which took 9 months, and the leaves were still frozen on the trees all that time. The snow that fell right after Labor Day was still on the ground in May. Sure, it's Alaska, but even so it was a little extreme. It was interesting in the eventual spring how the new leaves would grow past the old ones still on the branches.

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Again we catch the absolutely worthless NY Slimes lying about the enviroment.

Can anyone remember when the NY Slimes has not lied to undercut conservatives, republicans and any republican president?

[Libertarianize the GOP]

Thanks for the ping

[VOA]

Here we are on June 20, when a normal temperature on a sunny day here would be about
100 degrees, and the high today was 72

There was an article in The Los Angeles Times sometime during the last week about the
problems facing some Eskimos in Alaska because some treaty snafu might limit the
number of whales they can harvest.

The story did report that when one whale was taken "to town" to be cut up, the Eskimos
had to wait...because even in the middle of the day the temperature was too cold at
26 deg. (F) and the whale carcass needed to be thawed before it could be dressed out.

Incredible...The Los Angeles Times actually reports it's basically too freakin'
cold in Alaska in June.
I guess that cunning "global warming" disappears whenever you need to cut up a whale.

[cascademountaineer]

Very interesting article, thanks for the ping.

[sistergoldenhair]

The Hadley Climate model, whose scientists had warned that its model wasn't good for forecasting local or regional results.

But some "scientists" like the results, so this is the model they'll use.

[farmfriend]

Perhaps this article should be e-mailed to Jeffords.

[Zon]

The ironic thing is we didn't get a loaf of bread from the grocery store or computers from the tech store or cars from automakers based on lies and inversion of reality. They absolutely had to adhere to objective reality in order to bring us those benefits. For that we are well served and very pleased.

What has politics brought us? Yes a few good things, but those few positives are dwarfed by several magnitude the negatives foisted on citizens by politicians and bureaucrats. And probably still singly dwarf the benefits from most big media and many post high school academia.

Government intervention into peaceful, private activity -- notably, free association wherein any or all parties are free to walk away -- will make things worse rather than better.

Any government agency that is a value to the people and society could better serve the people by being in the private sector where competition demands maximum performance.

Wake up! They are the parasites. We are the host. We don't need them. They need us.

[kitchen]

Tisk tisk. The gray lady as been caught editing the facts again. (And, because they do, all "responsible" journalist have to follow suit.)

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Antartica has cooled slightly over the last few years!

See some of the discussion in the articles in the Glabal Warming Hoax list!

[lavaroise]

Global warming is not as bad as the global mouth farting of reporters. Psychological balckmail is a nono and they need to go to jail.

[petuniasevan]

Here in east-central Wisconsin we had a so-so winter but a cold spring.
It took forever for the weather to quit sending little surprises like late May frosts, and the rain has been abundant, though no flooding has occurred here.
Here's the week's forecast:

Today
Jun 21 T-Storms 78°/66°

Sat
Jun 22 T-Storms 83°/67°

Sun
Jun 23 Partly Cloudy 83°/69°

Mon
Jun 24 Partly Cloudy 84°/68°

Tue
Jun 25 Partly Cloudy 85°/66°

Wed
Jun 26 Partly Cloudy 85°/62°

Thu
Jun 27 Partly Cloudy 81°/58°

Fri
Jun 28 Partly Cloudy 79°/57°

Sat
Jun 29 Partly Cloudy 80°/58°

Sun
Jun 30 Partly Cloudy 81°/60°

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!

[mafree]

bump

[jpl]

Here we are on June 20, when a normal temperature on a sunny day here would be about 100 degrees, and the high today was 72. - The geeks on the radio were all griping about the 'heat.'

Unfortunately, it's just brutally hot today (Monday) here in Washington D.C. I fully expect that the media charlatans who love using small sample sizes to scare the bejabbers out of their less intelligent customers are going to be out in full force over the next couple of days.