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Related Publications in the LAT/WP vs Free Republic Settlement Agreement
Free Republic LAT/WP Settlement Agreement ^ | 06/24/02 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 06/24/2002 8:39:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

As part of our settlement with the LAT/WP, we have agreed to post only short excerpts and links from the following LAT/WP related publications:

Page 13: Tribune Company, basically anything published by the Chicago Tribune or subsidiaries or related companies.

Page 14: Tribune Broadcasting and Television.

Page 15: Los Angeles Times, Baltimore Sun, Hartford Courant, News Day.

Page 16: Times Mirror companies.

Page 17: (blank page).

Page 18: The Washington Post, The Daily Herald Company, The Gazette Newspapers.

Page 19: Legislate, Newsweek, Post Newsweek Companies.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Free Republic; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adminlectureseries; excerptmadness; latwpsettlement; relatedpublications; stoptheexcerpts
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To: Jim Robinson; All
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but wasn't the contention of Tribune and WPC that posting articles in their entirety deprived mainly harmed them by depriving them of potential ad revenues?

If this is the case, the solution is not to just do excerpts but to use the tag which can be rendered in every modern Web browser, including text-only browsers. Now granted there are people out there still using Netscape 4.x however, with the founding of the Mozilla project and its derivatives including Netscape 6/7, these freepers can upgrade their browser for free. The resource requirements are no more stringent for the newer Mozilla-based browsers than for the archaic Netscape 4.x. (The Opera Web browser also runs quite nicely on legacy hardware, too.)

That being said, if we used here, we would most likely add impressions for these sites since the entire content of the page including the ads would be displayed on each page, especially considering the fact that most freepers do not visit the sites in question. If these dumb liberal companies had any brains they'd have pushed for instead of excerpts.

The fact that would give more hits to these papers is about the only drawback I can see to my proposal. And with a "problem" like this, we could charge them for the free ads this way ;)

121 posted on 06/25/2002 2:05:17 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: GulliverSwift
My previous post left out the <IFRAME> tag, here's the corrected version. Feel free to delete the previous version moderators.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but wasn't the contention of Tribune and WPC that posting articles in their entirety deprived mainly harmed them by depriving them of potential ad revenues?

If this is the case, the solution is not to just do excerpts but to use the <IFRAME> tag which can be rendered in every modern Web browser, including text-only browsers. Now granted there are people out there still using Netscape 4.x however, with the founding of the Mozilla project and its derivatives including Netscape 6/7, these freepers can upgrade their browser for free. The resource requirements are no more stringent for the newer Mozilla-based browsers than for the archaic Netscape 4.x. (The Opera Web browser also runs quite nicely on legacy hardware, too.)

That being said, if we used <IFRAME> here, we would most likely add impressions for these sites since the entire content of the page including the ads would be displayed on each page, especially considering the fact that most freepers do not visit the sites in question. If these dumb liberal companies had any brains they'd have pushed for <IFRAME> instead of excerpts.

The fact that <IFRAME> would give more hits to these papers is about the only drawback I can see to my proposal. And with a "problem" like this, we could charge them for the free ads this way ;)

122 posted on 06/25/2002 2:08:55 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Thanks Tonkin & bttt
123 posted on 06/25/2002 2:51:33 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: GulliverSwift
Three things:
  1. Some of us use older computers which will not support the version 6/7 browsers. You have to have a 200+MHz CPU for those.
  2. The lawsuit wasn't about money, it was about censorship. FR made money for the LAT/WP, not lost it.
  3. I am truly disappointed that no FReeper bothered to key in the rest of the lists as I requested. Talk is cheaper than I had thought around here.

124 posted on 06/25/2002 3:05:31 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Thanks for the ping. Bookmarked.
Kim Weissman- While the media pretends that absolute neutrality makes them morally superior to those who actually retain the ability to distinguish right from wrong, such pretensions call into question, not their neutrality, but their contact with reality. www.tysknews.com
125 posted on 06/25/2002 6:07:55 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: snopercod
1. Some of us use older computers which will not support the version 6/7 browsers. You have to have a 200+MHz CPU for those.

I addressed this issue in my message. For older computers, Mozilla or its derivatives (Netscape 6/7, K-Meleon) will work fine. If you don't want to use them (they are free) there are alternatives which work on cheap computers such as Opera. Macintosh and Linux users have additional alternatives for legacy hardware. In addition, IE 3/4 (which run nicely on 486s) also have support for <IFRAME>

2. The lawsuit wasn't about money, it was about censorship. FR made money for the LAT/WP, not lost it.

This is the ultimate truth, however the case being made by Tribune/WPC was that FR was depriving them of ad revenues (not that anyone clicks on them anyway). On this point, your argument is not with me; however, I can understand the reasons why JimRob chose to settle instead of take it all the way. It's been very tough on him as it has been and there's always the risk that FR would've had to move out of the United States or quit entirely.

Still, I'd like to see what JimRob has to say about my <IFRAME> proposal. I suppose it might be too late but only he can answer that one.

126 posted on 06/25/2002 7:02:38 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: ReaganIsRight
**Don't worry about postings from the Baltimore Sun even though the LA Times owns them. The paper is not fit to eat crabs off, and they are going down the tubes.**

Agreed, except for the comics. I like to pick up other peoples Sunday comics and read them. The B. Sun is one of the few papers that haven't shrunk their Sunday Funnies down to near microscopic.
127 posted on 06/25/2002 7:48:19 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: Bryan
Mega-bump!
128 posted on 06/25/2002 8:00:53 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: GulliverSwift
From Netscape's Website, minimum system requirements for Netscape 6.2.3:
Windows Windows 95, 98, or 98SE, Windows ME, Windows NT 4.0, Windows 2000, or Windows XP | Pentium 233 MHz (or faster) processor | 64 MB RAM | 26 MB of free hard disk space.

129 posted on 06/26/2002 3:06:13 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: Bryan
What exactly did Kerry do in Nam?
130 posted on 06/26/2002 12:06:08 PM PDT by hgro
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To: hgro
He was a SEAL (Navy commando). It's my understanding that he lost part of one leg. I also hear that he participated in one or more encounters with enemy soldiers, during which some civilians were killed, and he expressed some regret in his book.

My memory of this isn't perfect, but I seem to recall that the enemy was firing on Kerry and his fellow SEAL Team members from within a crowd of civilians, essentially using them as human shields.

131 posted on 06/26/2002 12:53:30 PM PDT by Bryan
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To: snopercod
For underpowered systems, there's IE 4 (which runs fine on 486 PCs with Windows 95) and Opera. See http://www.opera.com/support/supsearch/supsearch.cgi?options=index&name=644.

As you can see, Opera can be run by almost any computer:

System requirements for Opera for WindowsMinimum configuration for Opera 6 without Java:

Recommended configuration for Opera 6 without Java:
Please note that Java requires at least a Pentium 166MHz processor, 32 MB of RAM and 65 MB free hard drive space to run.


Minimum configuration for Opera 5:Recommended configuration for Opera 5:

There are many other browsers which can be used on underpowered PCs as well including the Arachne browser which runs in DOS. I think even it can support <IFRAME> but I'm not sure since i haven't used it in a long while.

132 posted on 06/26/2002 1:20:40 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: Phil V.
I wonder if that infamous smiley-face potty pic would be flushed by the Posting Police nowadays? LOL!

(Please, spare us. I'm jes' joking!)

133 posted on 06/26/2002 8:14:04 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Jim Robinson
bookmarked
134 posted on 02/07/2003 7:45:05 PM PST by rface (Ashland, Missouri)
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