1 posted on
06/29/2002 8:30:02 AM PDT by
gohabsgo
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To: gohabsgo
Amen! Christian conservatives have a sincere and faith-based desire to support Israel. The Republican party stands on Israel's side against terrorism.
2 posted on
06/29/2002 8:41:41 AM PDT by
Ciexyz
To: gohabsgo
Good piece. But it misses the point that Democratic and liberal support for the Palestinians is just as genuine and strong as the conservative, Christian, and Republican support for Israel.
3 posted on
06/29/2002 8:47:50 AM PDT by
walden
To: gohabsgo
We support Israel in spite of the Liberal Jewish American community that still supports Bill Clinton. To those of you that are on the border, Come Home!! We've saved a seat at the table for you!
4 posted on
06/29/2002 8:49:40 AM PDT by
MoJo2001
To: gohabsgo
...recognize that the strongest and most loyal defenders of Israel are Christian conservatives....
The leftist media never wanted anyone to learn this truth.
To: gohabsgo
much of this refreshing mindset is driven by respect and deference to traditional values and historic American principles that constitute footprints for honorable civil conduct. Excellent article. I've always wondered how/why the Rats have had so much of the Jewish vote......when it is the Christians who so strongly come to the aid of the American Jews and Israel.....and the Christians are overwhemingly Republicans.......perhaps Bush, who has never once invited Arafat to the White House (unlike his predecessor, who hosted Arafat at the White House more than any other person), is the best representative, so far, of a Christian Republican defending the nation of Israel and prays to the same God as the American Jews......perhaps they can begin to see the similarities of our faith and needs and wants for our country........irrespective of some issues that, in the past, have kept the majority of our Jewish friends within the shackles of the Rats.
6 posted on
06/29/2002 8:54:51 AM PDT by
nicmarlo
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7 posted on
06/29/2002 9:03:54 AM PDT by
ppaul
To: gohabsgo
I think that the American Jewish community has finally realized that anti Semitism is not just Israel's problem but the problem of American Jews also.
8 posted on
06/29/2002 9:22:33 AM PDT by
dawn53
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I don't buy it. American Jews are not, and never have been, Israelis, unless you go back to the times of King David, and their loyalty is not to Israel, but to the agenda of the radical left in the U.S. This is a stereotype, I know, but one with a lot of truth in it, IMO. They are not going to vote Republican just because Christian conservatives (who apparently don't vote Republican, either) support Israel.
Think of it this way: the relationship of American Jews to Israel is analogous to the relationship of American Catholics to Italy. Tenuous at best.
The Democrats are right to worry. They didn't reach their current position by waiting around. They are proactive, but I want to see some poll numbers before I believe it. I think it's a cautionary tale for Democrats, a canard.
To: gohabsgo
This has been going on for years in Israel.
Conservative Christians visiting Jewish sites like Masada, Yad Vashem, and the Western Wall have caused a bond between these two people. They may not agree on all issues but they respect eachothers beliefs. (kind of like FR)
Israeli Jews know these visitors respect and honor these sites
11 posted on
06/29/2002 9:33:39 AM PDT by
Zathras
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There are several factor here.
1. The collapse of the Black-Jewish alliance. Most commentators ascribe this to the rise of Black Power in the '60s, but I tend to ascribe it to something much more fundamental. By 1970, the alliance no longer served Jewish-American interests. By 1970, the old Gentleman's Agreement Wasp country club anti-Semitism was dead. Legal and social discrimination against Jews was dead. Ancestral memories of Cossacks and Storm Troopers, enemies on the right, had faded. America fully accepted Jews as white people, so why should they continue to see themselves as despised outsiders ? What is left of the Black-Jewish alliance is sentiment, not self-interest.
2. Looking at the SFSU pro-Palestinian types, you see the activist Black, Asian, and Hispanic student groups. It is no secret that among Blacks and Hispanics there is little pro-Israel sentiment. Jews realize this and are quite naturally reconsidering what membership in the Democratic Party buys them.
To: gohabsgo
And much of this refreshing mindset is driven by respect and deference to traditional values and historic American principles that constitute footprints for honorable civil conduct. What a beautifully written line!
To: gohabsgo
"The Republican leadership is actually being very smart," said Benjamin Ginsberg, a political scientist at Johns Hopkins University. "Jews have always been the brain, the wallet and the legs of the Democratic Party... What astounding anti-Semitism!
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I think that American Jews are starting to realize that there is nothing political in the republican support of Israel. It is a heartfelt support, something that is soul deep. For some strange reason, liberal Jews have been terrified of Christians. They have used their money and their political clout to undermine us. Yet now, when Israel needs support, they see us standing with them, shoulder to shoulder, clear eyed and unwavering. Israel is right in this!
These are a wonderful people who went into a desert wasteland and created a garden. They are strong and courageous and we deeply admire that. We've always admired that. It just hasn't been understood until now. The American Jew is learning a very serious lesson. There is a big difference between what people say (democrats) and what people do (republicans). If I were Jewish, I'd pick the ones who do the right thing, but even if they don't we will still stand by Israel.
To: gohabsgo
American jews loyalty is to socialism and the state. They will drop the conservatives like dirty socks when they are no longer useful.
25 posted on
06/29/2002 11:58:24 AM PDT by
cynicom
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"McAuliffe's party of emotions, atheism and name-calling is having an alarming time validating its purpose"
WOW! What a stunning indictment! And ... true, true, true!
36 posted on
06/29/2002 12:45:52 PM PDT by
CyberAnt
To: gohabsgo
There's a good bumper sticker here.
JIHAD IS NOT PROTECTED SPEECH
A subtext also suggests itself: "If you don't feel the same way get out of my country!"
39 posted on
06/29/2002 1:31:06 PM PDT by
mercy
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ALERT!
Terry McAwful is whining, whining, whining. I wonder if he wants a little cheese with that whine? </sarcam off
To: gohabsgo
What gauled me the most about liberal jewish politicians is that they were so vociferous in their steadfast support for the traitor-in-chief president Bill Clinton (may his name and memory be obliterated) and his jew hating so called wife Hillary Arafat. Time and time again I would watch a GOP led committee hearing looking into the various nepharious doings of the traitor-in-chief's administration, and find the likes of Schumer and Lieberman, and Waxman, Barney Fag and that scum senator from Michigan Carl Levin all taking the point position for the Democrats defending the Clinton's to the max...
To: gohabsgo
it is time to take our pain and turn it into resolve to rid the world of the evil that has been cast upon us."Does that mean that the voters of Palm Beach won't try to steal anymore elections?
46 posted on
06/29/2002 2:19:20 PM PDT by
scouse
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