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Saturday, July 20, 2002

Quote of the Day posted by Mr. Bird

1 posted on 07/20/2002 12:04:25 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
"The "Sawgrass Rebellion" intends to see that people come first in America."........BTTT


2 posted on 07/20/2002 1:26:27 AM PDT by brat
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To: sauropod
Another case of property confication by the central government.
4 posted on 07/20/2002 5:26:22 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks for the post
6 posted on 07/20/2002 6:39:37 AM PDT by UpToHere
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To: Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Stand Watch Listen; freefly; expose; ...
Henry Lamb Convoy ping!
7 posted on 07/20/2002 7:39:11 AM PDT by madfly
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ping
8 posted on 07/20/2002 7:46:23 AM PDT by madfly
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To: JohnHuang2
I very much like the idea of making our representatives, and not just those at the national level, state their intentions about protecting private property ownership, which is the absolute basic of our rights.

Eventually, the matter of private property taxation, which reduces us to leasing paid-for homes we live in from the government.

12 posted on 07/20/2002 8:51:02 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: JohnHuang2
D*mn.

I really wanted to be in Nashville today for the meeting with Henry, but wasn't able to go.

We must find a way to shake the people awake, before it is too late.

There is only one thing that the politicians truly understand, and that is POWER. Until the people of this country start to exercise their power, the statists are going to keep right on destroying every sacred principle contained in the bill of rights.

EV
20 posted on 07/20/2002 11:55:56 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: JohnHuang2
My brother lives out there. I will have to send this to him.
24 posted on 07/20/2002 12:22:18 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: JohnHuang2
More Global Dominion. This is about the usurpation of private property rights, rural cleansing, etc. under the auspices of helping the environment. The powers that be have already stated their plans.

Why is it so hard for people to admit to what is occurring? It's like they don't want to believe that America is not the same as it once was.

27 posted on 07/20/2002 2:55:55 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: JohnHuang2
thanks for posting this.
28 posted on 07/20/2002 3:20:07 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: JohnHuang2
I'd like to join a caravan when it hits Florida, I'll be watching for it.
36 posted on 07/20/2002 5:59:24 PM PDT by multitaskmom
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To: JohnHuang2
Rural America Under Siege
By Madeleine Fortin

I live in what is called the "8.5 Square Mile Area" by government agencies. I call my community Pariah, Florida. It lies along the eastern edge of Everglades National Park. Several thousand people live here. For the most part, they're Cuban. They came here from Cuba because they believed that they would be treated with fairness and honesty by our democratic government. Little did they know what was going to happen to them.

The community is made up of small, family-owned farms and ranches. Most farms are five to ten acres in size. Over half the land in the community is used for some form of commercial agricultural production. We produce tropical fruit and winter vegetables, herbs, cut flowers and honey. People have plant nurseries. They raise pigs, goats, horses and chickens.

The area has been granted flood protection by Congress on three separate occasions, but because of radical environmentalists hiding in state and federal government agencies, my community has been flooded unmercifully since 1994 in an effort to force people to become "willing sellers."

In the process of flooding us, the government agencies involved in "restoring" the Everglades have managed to flood the entire Miami-Dade County area twice, in a one year period. So far, there has been at least $1 billion in flood related losses and 14 flood related deaths throughout the urban and agricultural areas of the county. The agricultural community in the southern part of the County is literally on its knees. Fifty-year-old avocado and mango groves are dead. To the government, these farmers are just more "willing sellers."

Flooding has destroyed my community's way of life. Over half the 55 miles of unpaved roads in the community are no longer passable to regular vehicles. Year after year, people have lost crops, orchards and livestock. The flooding is not a natural event-it has been engineered by the government agencies that are supposed to be "restoring the Everglades." As one man who was forced by the flooding to become a "willing seller" said at a public meeting, "You use water as a weapon of terror!" Another man told me just before he sold his home to the government, "They've slaughtered the American Dream."

In 1989, Congress passed the Everglades National Park Protection and Expansion Act. This Act told the park it could buy up all the vacant land in Northeast Shark River Slough. It also told the Corps of Engineers to do two things: provide the park with a more natural hydrologic regime, and to protect the communities that would be impacted by this. The exact legislative legislative language reads, "The Secretary of the Army is authorized and directed to construct a flood protection system to protect the developed land within such area." (PL 101-229, Section 104, paragraph 2c)

The Corps developed the Modified Water Delivery Project to do what Congress had ordered. This project was Congressionally approved and fully federally funded in 1992. How could they screw this up?

In 1994, all forward movement on our little flood protection canal stopped. It seemed the park wanted a "buffer zone." In the years since then, the Corps has developed a "compromise alternative" which puts a canal up the most populated street in the community. This leaves half of the community unprotected and costs over three times as much as the original project.

The Corps doesn't even have Congressional authority to condemn land outside the footprint of the original project, and funding for the project is uncertain. In the process of choosing this "compromise" solution, the Corps, along with its allies, the National Park Service, the Fish & Wildlife Service and the Corps local sponsor, the South Florida Water Management District, has committed fraud, violated NEPA, abused the Endangered Species Act, committed numerous violations of its own administrative procedures and wasted over $15 million in tax money-all in an effort to take our homes and farms away from us!

Now the Corps of Engineers is saying they will begin bulldozing homes in September! September 11 would be an appropriate date, don't you think? Democracy isn't just under siege from foreign terrorists-our own government is destroying it!

It's bad enough for the government to do this to us, but in the process of holding up completion of the Modified Water Delivery Project, the involved agencies are unable to release water into the park in the volumes necessary for ecosystem functioning. Rather than let the excess water out to tide, the water is being stockpiled in the state-owned Everglades north of the park.

This has turned the area into an inland sea. More than half the tree islands are dead, and endangered species are being impacted. Because of the hydrology of the area, water stockpiled above the surface in one place will soak into the ground and raise the ground-water throughout the County. When there is a heavy rainstorm, the water has nowhere to go, and the entire County floods. The agricultural area just south of my community has been devastated by the flooding.

It seems that all over the United States, rural communities are under siege. Excessive regulation in the name of "preserving the environment" prevents reasonable use of our land, while unfair trade treaties flood our markets with cheap foreign produce. Small rural communities are often poor, sparsely populated and politically powerless. How can we protect ourselves from the actions of our own government? Perhaps if other communities like mine can band together, we can make our voices heard in Washington.

Some thoughts on the Fourth of July

This evening, like many Americans, I went to a fireworks display. It was a lavish, beautiful event. One group in the crowd burst into a spirited rendition of the Pledge of Allegiance (shouting the phrase "one nation under God"), then they sang the National Anthem. If they only knew....

As I drove home, I thought about what is happening to my community. Before I moved into my house on the eastern edge of the Everglades, I really believed that our government was democratic. I believed what I had been taught in civics class. Now I know that it isn't true. America is no longer a democracy and our elected officials are no longer in charge of the government.

Instead, the government is being run by lobbyists, consultants and lawyers representing special interest groups. In the case of my community, the special interest groups are the radical environmental organizations.

I began my fight against government acquisition six years ago, by writing letters to the involved government agencies, especially the Corps of Engineers. I was so hopeful! I struggled for days over each letter. I thought if only I could find the right words, relate the situation in the right way, someone would see the injustice being done to my community, and put a stop to it. Now I know that what ordinary citizens say doesn't matter to anyone.

Your words only have meaning if you can make large campaign contributions to a political party or if you are an important person in a group that can deliver thousands of votes to a particular candidate. The words of ordinary citizens mean nothing, even if you're telling the truth.

As I drove up the one mile stretch of almost impassable road to my house, I cried as I passed the abandoned homes of people who sold their farms and ranches to the government because they were too afraid, too tried of the constant flooding, to fight. Now these houses are abandoned. Many of them have been stripped and left as empty shells.

I cried as I passed the lots that used to contain farms and ranches that were bulldozed after the government acquired them from "willing sellers." Now these farms are nothing but plots of weeds and brush that almost completely block what's left of the road to my home. I can't tell you how it felt to sit in my house and hear the bulldozers destroying these homes and farms, bulldozers paid for with my own tax money.

The government is waging a war of attrition against my community.

Our only crime is living in our homes and farming our land. We built these homes with permits given to us by the county government and we paid taxes on these farms and ranches for years. Congress ordered the Corps of Engineers to provide my community with flood protection, but it looks like Congress is no longer in control of its federal agencies. There is no environmental benefit to be derived by the destruction of my community, but that doesn't seem to matter to anyone.

Democracy isn't just under siege from foreign terrorists, it's under siege right here at home, from special interest groups like the radical environmentalists who can buy access to the "democratic" process. If it wasn't for the pro bono legal assistance provided by the law firm of Hunton & Williams, my community would already be destroyed. It's a hell of a thing when a small, helpless community has to have a legal defense team to protect it from the illegal actions of its own government! Please pray for us.
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Madeleine Fortin is President of The 8.5 Square Mile Area Legal Defense Foundation
Miami, FL 33187,

49 posted on 07/21/2002 11:29:55 AM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: JohnHuang2
Letter to Governor Jeb Bush

Honorable Governor Bush:

Your Final Order from 1999 has been shaping land development and environmental preservation policies here in Collier County. Our commission recently sent the Rural Fringe Amendments up to get them approved so we will meet your June 22 deadline for compliance. Sir, the premise that we, here in Collier County, are not preserving and caring for our environment is patently ridiculous. During the planning sessions for the Rural Fringe Assessment panel, it was revealed that 87% of Collier County is under the control and care of either the local, state, or Federal government. Or, the care has been transferred to an NGO.

Tell me, how much more land must they have? The people only have 13% of our county. The area I live in is called Golden Gate Estates and is stated to be exempt from the effects of the action taken to become compliant with your 1999 Final Order. I should take comfort in that, but I just can't.

I have sat by and felt safe as I heard about the land being purchased from "willing sellers" south of I-75. Recently, the orders were given to "take" the remaining lands from the people through eminent domain. All in the name of Everglades Restoration. That was not my battle, so I was told. I, therefore, did nothing to assist them in their fight for their property rights. I was wrong to sit and not help them preserve their rights to keep their property. This is America, and that is one of our most basic rights that this country was founded on.

I let them down and so did their representatives. The rural fringe issue reared its head and I couldn't sit by. I realize that I am "exempt" from this, but I am next in line from them. Currently there is a program called ROMA (regional offsite mitigation area) in the process of becoming law of the land. If my area gets called that, then there is no doubt that my rights will flow away just like the sheetflow water they are trying to reestablish.

I am a member on Property Rights Action Committee, and we were established last year, when the direction of the rural fringe assessment was discovered. We saw the potential harm that could befall a very large group of property owners, especially the owners who reside out of the area and have no clue about this plan being formulated. We have been trying to get people to realize what they are about to lose, if this goes through. Well, Sir, it has gone through our county commissioners' hands, and back to you. It isn't sitting on your desk yet, there are a few more motions it must pass through, before it is submitted, but rest assured, it is on its way.

Sir, this was not a program that was mainly interested in preserving the "wetlands" and "environmentally sensitive" land. The final product was a plan that was negotiated between environmentalists, developers and the County for their benefit and the price will be paid for by the "little" person.

I listened to testimony from people who are in their retirement years and are sitting on land that they can no longer sell, to have their retirement fund. They had purchased 10, 20, even 50 acres with plans of dividing it up and keeping 5 acres for their home and selling the other 5 acre parcels to have retirement money. When they purchased the land, years ago, it was legal to do this. All the years they have been paying the taxes on this land, it was legal to do this. Now that they are in their sunset years, the legal right to do this has been taken away from them.

Now they can receive credits for their lost rights to develop this land, suggested at $18,500 per credit (5 acre parcel). They lose the developmental rights, but they can still keep the land and the tax bill that accompanies it. But they will never have that retirement fund they were planning on. They have had their life's dreams shattered. What good does it do for them to have legally purchased land and not be able to proceed with their plans, which were legal at the time of purchase?

This TDR is a boon for developers, they are able to increase the amount of homes they can build. You have one person who can no longer use his land and build 1 home per 5 acres on each of his 5 acre lots because "they" have deemed his land to be "sending" or NRPA land, and will impact the environment too much. Then you have another one who can increase the density to build three-fold on their land, because "they" have deemed his land "receiving" land and are encouraged to go for it.

All of this is in the name of stopping the dreaded "Urban Sprawl". One home per 5 acres and reasonable restrictions on preservation of the natural beauty of that land is a much less impacting way to build and live than the crammed-in "Urban Stacking" that will take place as a result from this plan. The environmental movement has held this country hostage long enough. They play the "lawsuit" card and are pretty much getting their way, all across this great nation of ours. They have bankrupted many companies with their frivolous lawsuits, and have sent many townships fleeing, from just the threat of having that happen to them.

I sat and listened to just such a threat at one of our commissioner meetings. There were last minute negotiations with the Florida Wildlife Federation behind the landowners' backs, and when the landowners cried "foul" the Federation threatened to sue the county if they tried to do right by the landowners. The county backed down and gave the Federation exactly what they wanted.

As I watch the horrific fires out west, I see just how far the environmental movement has gone. They are the cause for the out of control situation that is present in those forests. They have forced the governmental agencies to stop the normal care and management of the forests. They have forced the governmental agencies to remove the roads from the areas, which are necessary to have access so the fires can be fought.

Tragedies bring change. The attack on 9/11 has forced Americans to look within ourselves and become the true patriots we were meant to be. Our country has pulled together like never before. The founding fathers would truly be proud. Perhaps out of the devastation we are witnessing out west, some good will come as well. Our representatives of all the people, must look within themselves and remember why they are there. They are there to protect the best interest and rights of the people who have elected them. This country was founded on freedom. The most basic freedom we have is property ownership. The founding fathers insisted that be a part of the bill of rights, because they knew that without it, you have nothing. It is time to take back this country and restore it to the greatness that inspired its inception.

Governor, I beg you to help us on that road to recovery. Let sound judgment and true scientific data help the people of Collier County maintain the beauty that is Collier County. Let those who have worked, dreamed and financed the purchase of this land be the stewards of this land. This is America. God Bless America, and God Bless you.

Karol Montalto
Naples, Florida
Property Rights Action Committee

50 posted on 07/21/2002 11:35:49 AM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: AAABEST; summer
FYI.


59 posted on 07/22/2002 4:54:01 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: JohnHuang2; sauropod; farmfriend; Grampa Dave; Jeff Head
Thanks for the post, will also send to friends in Maine and New York that are also under fire from enviro whacko's! Also will post any further info as I get it. This will be an awesome event!!!
66 posted on 07/22/2002 9:09:04 AM PDT by countrydummy
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To: newriverSister; PARKFAN
bump!
67 posted on 07/22/2002 10:53:12 AM PDT by countrydummy
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