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Japan Was 'Days Away From Test' Of A-Bomb
Independent (UK) ^ | 8-5-2002

Posted on 08/04/2002 3:12:36 PM PDT by blam

Japan was 'days away from test' of A-bomb

By David McNeill in Tokyo
05 August 2002

Japan's secret plans to build its own atom bomb have resurfaced with the uncovering of a dossier smuggled out of the country at the end of the Second World War.

The papers, containing crude diagrams for a small nuclear weapon, were part of a six-year effort by military scientists to make the country the world's first nuclear power.

According to yesterday's Asahi newspaper, the American widow of a Japanese researcher, who fled to the US with the document in 1945, has returned it to the Institute of Physical and Chemical Research, where he worked during the war. The researcher, Kazuo Kuroda, who later became a professor at the University of Arkansas, kept the document secret for half a century until his death in America in April last year.

The liberal-left Asahi, which seems to be the only Japanese media organisation to have picked up the story, says the military ordered the destruction of the plans the day before Japan surrendered on 15 August 1945. Scientists at the institute, however, thought this was "a waste" and decided to save at least part of the plans by giving them to Mr Kuroda.

Although suppressed in postwar Japanese education, the race by imperial scientists to develop the bomb has long been the stuff of wartime legend. Scientists at secret bases in Korea worked furiously to make a viable weapon before abandoning the facilities to the advancing Red Army.

Several historians have claimed Japan was days away from testing an atomic weapon in Nagoya when Hiroshima was obliterated by one American bomb on 6 August 1945.

The discovery of the dossier comes as Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which was bombed on 9 August, are preparing to commemorate the deaths of more than 250,000 nuclear victims.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Japan
KEYWORDS: abomb; atomicbomb; japan; japangotofflight; kazuokuroda; napalminthemorning; test; worldwarii; wot; wwii
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To: parsifal
"And FWIW, Arkansas has the bomb. Y'all yankees remember that. Woooo Pig Soooooieee!

That's what that reactor down by Hog Eye is for, an don ya'll ferget it.

41 posted on 08/04/2002 6:16:44 PM PDT by fella
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To: Rockpile
...a Marine lifer Sgt. Major...

Sgt. Major isn't a Marine rank.

42 posted on 08/04/2002 6:19:46 PM PDT by Grut
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To: blam
"Days away from testing an A-bomb," my eye. It's simply not true that this could have been the secret of a small circle of scientists who kept it to themselves. The separation of isotopes implies a gigantic industrial infrastructure with thousands of employees. The entire U.S. effort in WWII--years of industrial effort at a massive scale--produced enough material to make exactly three bombs. One bomb does Japan no good if they were to waste it on a test, so they had to produce something comparable to what we produced. There's no way we would have overlooked an effort of that scale in either Japan or Germany.
43 posted on 08/04/2002 6:27:41 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: Rockpile
After Hiroshima and Nagasaki demonstrated that the things would actually work the Japanese exploded their own device. They had a small "tactical nuke" size bomb which was set off on a barge by a little rocky islet in the Sea of Japan. If Truman had not given the go ahead for our own bombs' use they may have had 2 or 3 ready for the invasion. Beaucoup dead Americans.

I've heard about this incident. Has it been verified it was a nuclear device? I know the explosion looked like a nuke, but was there radiation?

44 posted on 08/04/2002 6:27:56 PM PDT by gitmo
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To: muir_redwoods
There were people who had seen the Japanese build aircraft carriers who were very surprised that the Japanese had also built a superior airplane - the Zero!

One of the things the Japanese had done which misled a lot of folks is that they kept the Home Islands fairly empty of heavy industry. Unless a visitor could get into Manchuria and Korea, it is unlikely he would be aware of just how much was going on in that part of the world.

Their atom bomb program was fairly well distributed throughout the areas they controlled on Mainland Asia. One of the questions still remaining from that period is not how far advanced their atom bomb program was - rather, it's how many they had manufactured and where they'd stashed them, and, most of all, are they still there?

In our pursuit of AlQeada you will hear more about this problem.

45 posted on 08/04/2002 6:29:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Gorzaloon
When the Japanese were distilling pine roots because they had no petroleum fuels, a twit hack on a London Tabloid is saying they had UF6 isotopic diffusion plants, or banks of gas centrifuges?

What does one have to do with the other? They had no petrol because we had pushed them out of that part of the Greater East Asis Co-Prosperity Sphere which had oil, and sank many of their tankers taking oil back to Japan before that point. They have coal, lots of it, but no oil. They also had and have, hydropower, due the mountainous nature of the Islands, and of the Korean penninsula.

46 posted on 08/04/2002 6:30:03 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: spectre
The physicst you refer to was brought in to do a bit more than to verify the presence of radiation. He also identified the type of bomb that had been dropped.

We successfully convinced the Japanese that we had both uranium and plutonium bombs, which meant our technological prowess exceeded theirs.

Go back up the thread to my reference to General Stillwell's reconnaisance operation. You don't think I'd refer to that unless I knew something about it -

47 posted on 08/04/2002 6:33:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: blam
Several historians have claimed Japan was days away from testing an atomic weapon in Nagoya when Hiroshima was obliterated by one American bomb on 6 August 1945.

Thanks a lot for posting this, guy.

I just got shrapnel wounds from my exploding BSometer.

48 posted on 08/04/2002 6:40:59 PM PDT by Erasmus
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To: Physicist
The separation of isotopes implies a gigantic industrial infrastructure with thousands of employees. The entire U.S. effort in WWII--years of industrial effort at a massive scale--produced enough material to make exactly three bombs.

Something very worthwhile to remember, thank you!

49 posted on 08/04/2002 6:41:21 PM PDT by Scully
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To: blam
Wish I'd had this earlier today when the protesters were out at Y-12. Would have been interesting to see their reactions.
50 posted on 08/04/2002 6:41:54 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: blam
The explosion of the particular atom bomb in question occurred in the South Atlantic. Incredibly - for those of you who don't believe in the Japanese WWII atom bomb project - at least one of Stillwell's reconnaisance group folks was called in to evaluate the evidence and information regarding this bomb.

Since this stuff is still secret he has never revealed whether it was an atom bomb or a super lightning bolt - it's one of them FUR SHUR!

Still, he would be one of the last remaining evaluators of the evidence left over from the explosion at Harbin in 1945.

Taiwan was occupied by the Japanese for a very long time. It is possible they left their bombs behind on Formosa, and that all we saw was a "test" to see if they still work. Maybe the Israelis could tell us how many Japanese WWII A-bombs they have on hand.

51 posted on 08/04/2002 6:42:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: El Gato
The Japanese reportedly had a massive heavy water producing site in Konan Korea. The size of it supposedly shocked the Commies who occupied it. Supposedly, it was part of the project to produce jet fuel. So the story goes.
52 posted on 08/04/2002 6:43:15 PM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: Physicist
BTW, we did not "overlook" the industrial infrastructure to produce an atom bomb in Japan. That's not where they were building it. Rather, we had our eyes on it in Harbin. This became part of the Russian occupied territories in the Far East. Joe Stalin selected the exact same site for construction of a yellow-cake plant!

It was a nice clean site too, everything had been leveled as if by a massive explosion.

53 posted on 08/04/2002 6:44:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: El Gato
Speaking of innovators, the Japanese were occupying Korea. Among other things these are the guys who seem to have invented moveable type, gunpowder, rockets, firearms, and devil of them all - Paper Money, if not paper itself!

Don't be so quick to dismiss the folks in that part of the world as lacking ingenuity.

54 posted on 08/04/2002 6:49:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: spectre
This article is such a crock. First of all Germany was in no way shape or form remotely close to an atomic weapon. They had not even started the feasibility studies and lab work to begin a chain reaction, much less the engineering required to fabricate a weapon.

To clarify the record a little bit, they did have a reactor at the end of the war that was within perhaps a factor of two of being critical.

Their studies were aimed primarily at controlled reactions, and were about at the same stage of development as the American program in 1941, when Fermi and associates were making small subcritical piles at Columbia University.

They were taking small steps in the direction of uranium enrichment techniques, but at that late stage of the war, didn't have the resources to do anything much. It was also impossible for them to get significant further supplies of Uranium and heavy water.

And, as far as interviews and available documentation could reveal, they hadn't started on any of the other serious technical challenges regarding the Bomb.

BTW as for the Japanese, they couldn't even get a decent cyclotron running, due to the lack of RF power tubes.

55 posted on 08/04/2002 6:51:29 PM PDT by Erasmus
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To: Grut
"Sgt. Major isn't a Marine rank."

Yes it is.

56 posted on 08/04/2002 6:53:38 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: correctthought; blam
Didn't they just make this into a movie recently??
57 posted on 08/04/2002 6:55:11 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: Willie Green
Those are now marketed under the commercial brand-name "Ramen".

Hey now, don't be slamming ramen like that. That stuff kept me from starving in college.

58 posted on 08/04/2002 6:57:49 PM PDT by strela
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To: Gorzaloon
"When the Japanese were distilling pine roots because they had no petroleum fuels"

We had loads of Tung Oil trees growing around here for similar reasons. Tung Oil

59 posted on 08/04/2002 7:08:25 PM PDT by blam
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