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Egypt leads Arab revolt against US
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 08/28/2002 | Richard Beeston, Tim Reid and Philip Webster

Posted on 08/27/2002 5:23:24 PM PDT by Pokey78

Bush tries to woo Saudis as Mubarak warns of backlash

THE Bush Administration faced a rebellion last night among its closest Arab and European allies, who warned Washington not to carry out its threat of war against Iraq.

In some of the most uncompromising language used by America’s former coalition partners in the Gulf War, Washington was told that it could have to fight alone if it chooses to depose Saddam Hussein by force.

President Mubarak of Egypt, one of America’s closest allies in the region, gave warning of Arab anger unless some form of peace was first reached between Israel and the Palestinians. “If you strike Iraq, and kill the people of Iraq while Palestinians are being killed by Israel . . . not one Arab leader will be able to control the angry outburst of the masses,” he told students in Alexandria.

“I don’t think there is one Arab state that wants a strike on Iraq, not Kuwait, not Saudi Arabia, not any other state,” he said, adding that a military intervention in Iraq could lead to “chaos across the region”.

Last night President Bush attempted to patch up relations with America’s most important Arab ally when he telephoned Crown Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia to assure him that the two countries remained close friends. The US leader also received Prince Bandar, the Saudi Ambassador to Washington, and his family as guests on his ranch in Crawford, Texas.

Mr Mubarak’s concern was reflected by the Gulf states, which would be expected to provide the launch pad for any American attack. Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jabr al-Thani, Qatar’s Foreign Minister, visited Baghdad in order, he said, to avert “a catastrophe”.

His country is home to a huge new US airbase likely to be used in any offensive, but he said Qatar was “against any military action.”

Similar concerns were expressed by officials from Bahrain, headquarters of US naval forces in the Gulf, and Saudi Arabia, which has already ruled out allowing American forces based on its soil to attack Iraq.

The latest crisis was triggered on Monday by Dick Cheney, the US Vice-President, who said that a pre-emptive strike against Iraq was necessary to stop Saddam acquiring nuclear weapons. He suggested that even if Baghdad allowed the return of United Nations weapons inspectors, Washington would still not be convinced that the threat of Iraq amassing weapons of mass destruction could be eliminated.

Britain, the only country likely to join US forces in a military assault, responded by insisting that a diplomatic solution was still possible. The cautious approach coincided with a poll among Labour voters showing growing opposition to a war against Iraq.

Last night tensions were raised further in the region by reports that American and British warplanes had launched two airstrikes against suspected Iraqi anti-aircraft batteries in northern and southern Iraq. Baghdad said that the civilian airport in the northern city of Mosul had been hit in one of the heaviest bombings in months.

The talk of war and the latest actions on the ground appeared to help Iraq’s diplomatic offensive that is under way in the Arab world and as far away as Beijing, where the country’s Foreign Minister held talks with the Chinese leaders.

Taha Yassin Ramadan, the Iraqi Vice-President, who was in Damascus, issued a defiant message: “We could not care less about the threats that are out there. Iraq has a longer history with these threats and such despotism.”

Other Arab leaders appeared far more sensitive to the threat of war, which many experts say could be launched as soon as this winter.

The response from America’s European allies ranges from caution in Britain to suspicion in France and outright rejection in Germany. Growing differences between London and the hawks in the Bush Administration were exposed by Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, who insisted that President Saddam could still avoid conflict by readmitting UN arms inspectors.

The day after Mr Cheney doubted the value of a return by the inspectors, the Foreign Secretary said that the Government was “clear” that it preferred a diplomatic solution to war.

On a visit to Edinburgh, Mr Straw again indicated that the Iraqi leader could escape a devastating military assault if he readmitted the UN inspectors. “The ball is now in Saddam Hussein’s court,” he said.

“Let me repeat what the Prime Minister and I have made all too clear so often — and that is that no decisions about military action have been taken here and no decisions about military action have been taken in the US.”

He said that only if inspectors were allowed the chance to resume their work of searching for and destroying Iraqi chemical, nuclear and biological weapons could the West decide about the use of military force.

His remarks came as a new poll last night indicated that opposition to war against Iraq had grown sharply among Labour voters. The Guardian ICM survey showed that opposition to American policy on Iraq has risen to 52 per cent among Labour supporters, with support dropping eight points to 35 per cent.

In Germany, Gerhard Schröder, the Chancellor, said in an interview last night that the Bush Administration’s policy was a mistake.

“We are still far away from achieving peace in the Middle East — to talk about an attack against Iraq now is wrong,” Herr Schröder said. “Under my leadership Germany will not take part in that.”

France too was deeply critical. Dominique de Villepin, the Foreign Minister, said that Washington should not take action against Iraq without UN approval.


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1 posted on 08/27/2002 5:23:24 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
not one Arab leader will be able to control the angry outburst of the masses

NO! NO! NOT THE DREADED ARAB STREET AGAIN!

What a bunch of impotent blowhards..

What are the 'masses' going to do? Throw rocks at us?

Methinks he is more worried about the masses kicking his A##. Maybe the mideast NEEDS a little instability!

2 posted on 08/27/2002 5:26:55 PM PDT by Isle of sanity in CA
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To: Pokey78
I don’t think there is one Arab state that wants a strike on Iraq

Not that they are against war as a general principle. Against Israel, for example.

3 posted on 08/27/2002 5:28:43 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Pokey78
Bush tries to woo Saudis as Mubarak warns of backlash

Oh boy, there goes the last of the Coptic Christians in Egypt.

But if they stuck around Egypt, they only have themselves to blame for
swallowing that "religion of peace" Bravo Sierra.
(There are peaceable Muslims in places like Turkey, but in the Arab world...look out!)
4 posted on 08/27/2002 5:29:49 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Pokey78
“We are still far away from achieving peace in the Middle East — to talk about an attack against Iraq now is wrong,” Herr Schröder said.

Maybe that makes more sense in the original German, because it sure doesn't make any in English.

5 posted on 08/27/2002 5:29:59 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Isle of sanity in CA
Egypt, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Let's just flatten them all. I think it's time we asked Israel how big a country they would like. If there's anything left over we could give it to Morocco or maybe Algeria and see if they wouldn't like to be nice neighbors.
6 posted on 08/27/2002 5:30:56 PM PDT by muir_redwoods
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President Mubarak of Egypt, one of America’s closest allies in the region, gave warning of Arab anger unless some form of peace was first reached between Israel and the Palestinians.

Nobody's been able to bring peace to Israel and the Palestinians for over 30 years.
Yet this guy is saying Bush must accomplish this feat before addressing the threat of Saddam.
We're supposed to listen to morons like this?

7 posted on 08/27/2002 5:37:54 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: muir_redwoods
If there's anything left over we could give it to Morocco or maybe Algeria

or Texaco...

8 posted on 08/27/2002 5:42:09 PM PDT by Isle of sanity in CA
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To: Isle of sanity in CA
Why do we continue to send big money to this fool Mubarak, an enemy of the West and of America?

If Saddam gets the Bomb and kills a million of us, would THAT be enough to get Bush to do something? What WOULD it take?

9 posted on 08/27/2002 5:43:03 PM PDT by crystalk
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Why do we continue to send big money to this fool Mubarak, an enemy of the West and of America?

How about some brave congressman sponsoring a bill that denies foreign aid to countries in which the govt operated press openly calls for our destruction?

Naah, too much to ask...

10 posted on 08/27/2002 5:45:40 PM PDT by Isle of sanity in CA
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To: Isle of sanity in CA
The Mideast has been far too stable for far too long already.

Like the vulture in the cartoon, the US needs to say, "Patience my A$$! I am gonna KILL somebody!"

If Saddam is not attacked within 45 days, we are going to face American deaths at least an order of magnitude (ie 10x) greater than Sept 11, 2001.

These enemies of ours, many here at home, who have been counseling appeasement will have a great deal of blood on their hands. I think that will be the time for the LEFT to be brought to trial.

11 posted on 08/27/2002 5:46:31 PM PDT by crystalk
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oh please who cares if they throw a freaking hissy ,we pay these stooges to sit down and shut up,well tell them to sit down and shut up already!
12 posted on 08/27/2002 5:48:25 PM PDT by linn37
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Egypt is not a democratic regime. Like all most all Islamic governments it is basically anti-freedom and anti-capitalistic. Increasingly, through political correctness and liberalism in general, European governments are arriving at the same destination Egypt has -- a totalitarian state either by force or public decree such that economic freedoms are impinged as well. The outcome for Islamic governments is well known -- poverty, ignorance and an inability to technologically innovate. Europe is fast approaching the same condition.

If we are truly a market economy founded on personal liberty, it is our duty to make our progress available to others even by military means. To do otherwise, is to gradually suicide. Didn't Tacitus say the Romans submitted to slavery in the reign of Tiberius? Such could be our fate if we fail. God Bless George W. Bush and the USA!

13 posted on 08/27/2002 5:53:25 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: Isle of sanity in CA
that's ChevronTexaco now. Just a stockholder wanting to set the record straight.
14 posted on 08/27/2002 5:55:26 PM PDT by davisdoug
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To: Pokey78
Islam is the enemy we face
15 posted on 08/27/2002 5:59:42 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: davisdoug
My brother is a Lt. Commander in the Navy and is some kind of fire control officer attached to the Marines. He thinks we will hit Iraq right after the Nov. elections. The military wants a winter war because they fear Sadam will use chem weapons, which would require the troops to wear chem suits and these can't be worn much in the heat.
16 posted on 08/27/2002 6:01:57 PM PDT by umgud
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To: umgud
A coworker- USNR - has been called up.

As to our "allies," I'd be more worried if they were telling us they were right behind us. Some people you just don't want watching your back. Remember, these guys lie like they breath and they alway lie to their citizens. They'll talk tough about the big scary "Arab Street" but when the s**t hits the fan they'll tag along like grumpy teenagers. They don't want to be left out of the endgame when it comes to deciding who gets to replace the Baathist regime...or maybe a few of the other regimes in the region.

17 posted on 08/27/2002 6:11:41 PM PDT by Tis The Time''s Plague
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To: Pokey78
With "friends" like these....
18 posted on 08/27/2002 6:48:14 PM PDT by PogySailor
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To: Pokey78
HoseMe Mubarak will either come along when it is time or get in line. Of concern though: Egypt has recenty re-started production of the M1-A1 tank planning to bring it up to around 700 units. They also have F-16's and who knows what French stuff. They have also told us no Suez Canal access this time. Egypt would not be the cake walk that I expect Iraq to be. Of course in 1991 Saddam was the wild card. He may play his Ace, if he has one.
19 posted on 08/27/2002 6:51:52 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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...not one Arab leader will be able to control the angry outburst of the masses.

So what's new? They don't stop terrorists now. Personally, I would like to see mobs go wild in all the Arab Countries. Maybe, would be tyrants will think twice about the path they presently take.

20 posted on 08/27/2002 6:54:16 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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