Home-school battle heats up in California

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Monday, September 2, 2002 | By Art Moore

[JohnHuang2]

Monday, September 2, 2002

Quote of the Day by BibChr

[cyn]

San Bernardino County's Garnett. . .
"Who do they report to?" he asked. "How do you know if the child has actually received a high school education, which is required to get into a university?"

Bump for the homeschoolers.

[cyn]

I am remembering similar efforts in about 1993-4 to enact a federal law requiring homeschoolers to have teaching certificates. Massive letter/calls ensued, mine among them; effort tabled AT THAT TIME.

[angkor]

Andreoli said, however, that, in his view, the state's concern is that home-schools operating as private schools lack oversight to ensure that children are safe.

Don't parents normally operate home schools?

Don't parents normally "ensure that children are safe"?

[Tired of Taxes]

Eastin said if home-schooled children "were exempted from compulsory education laws by the mere filing of an affidavit ... then there would be potentially thousands of children in California whose education would not be subject to any supervision whatsoever."

Excuse me, Ms. Eastin. They're supervised by people who love them, not by uncaring gov't employees who view them as numbers, not children.

"it is incumbent upon the local school district to go out and check up and make sure these kids are in fact going to school,"

Sounds like the Gestapo.

He invited the families to "enroll in the district's home-based independent study program, a viable alternative to classroom instruction." Among the benefits, he said, are "using state- and district-approved textbooks" and "being enrolled in an approved" program,

Funny choice of words: "district's...independent study program". If it's approved and authorized by the district, just how independent could that study program be?

[gortklattu]

The liberals will fight for control of the educational systems because they have turned them into indoctrination systems.

The future of their party is at stake! This is holy ground for them!

[RightOnline]

"Superintendent Delaine Eastin said in an Aug. 27 letter to state legislators that "false charges" and "misinformation" leveled at her "make me believe that the situation cries out for a legislative solution."

By all means, Delaine.............let's get more laws, ya twit. Far be it from you to actually look at current law and use........oh.........say...............common sense.

California's already looking bad in this, and they'll wind up looking far worse, I predict.

I've told y'all here a hundred times: Do NOT EVER, EVER register with the State if you home school. EVER.

[Mr. Mulliner]

for your homeschool ping list

[Tom Bombadil]

but the amount of misinformation, and passion, in these communications does make me believe that the situation cries out for a legislative solution."

"You are so passionate I think I will ask the legislature to regulate you". First we accuse you of rioting, then we outlaw what you are peacably doing. Power grab power grab power grab.

[dasboot]

'We want to make sure children in our state live in homes with standards at least as high as those for government-subsidized public housing. There needs to be accountability to ensure running hot-and-cold water, adequate soap and toilet paper, safe food storage and preparation equipment, and compliance with California's Gun-Free School Zone policy, which are essential for children to grow up healthy.'

'Parents may apply for certification of their private homes on-line; waivers for approved household pets are also available.'

[glory]

Andreoli said, however, that, in his view, the state's concern is that home-schools operating as private schools lack oversight to ensure that children are safe.>>

Safe in this case equals pro homosexual agenda, over sexed, and exposed to the religion of peace.

This makes me so angry for California homeschoolers--how dare these people with the state of affairs thier schools are in think they have any say so over homeschooling parents. There are already laws on the books IF a homeschooling family is abusive to thier children or anything, if anything public school should be considered the exception. These blowhard ps officials seem to forget that they are only but one option and that they should be the exception and not the rule. All parents should be considered homeschoolers first and then thier children welcomed IF they choose public schools. No child should be expected to be there unless thier parents have previously demonstrated an inability to parent them(cases of abuse and neglect). I wonder how many kids are REALLY truant from California schools because they really are in trouble outside of school(ie they are registered to go there and don't) and how many visits they get a year, and they are targeting homeschool families?

[don-o]

But the CDE also bases its argument on the fact that home-schooling is not mentioned in the law.

That is it in a nutshell.

Their default position is that the state owns the children. This is a common thought in all totalitarian schemes.

Though I live in Tennessee, I have given money to the California Homeschoolers in a previous battle. This is important enough for me to do it again.

This may end up with another trip through the federal courts. (Scary thought, that.)

It may also be the beginning of a massive resistance to the insatiable lust for power drives the statists.

[glory]

San Bernardino County's Garnett. . .
"Who do they report to?" he asked. "How do you know if the child has actually received a high school education, which is required to get into a university?"


apparently he hasn't read the article I just read by a girl who got turned down by Princeton for not having the proper transcript, but is attending Harvard. And the educrats are so distanced from thier own field that they don't even know that there are ways (ACT,SAT) to get into college without transcripts and that colleges are seeking after homeschoolers. This guy just minuses the points from his side when this homeschool parent can sit here and tell him something about the education world he seems to know nothing about, unless of course, he's not being honest*gasp*

[randita]

"Facts are stubborn things":

Advocates, such as the Homeschool Legal Defense Association's Smith, argue that parental supervision has worked well for home-schoolers across the country, who according to studies, tend to score higher than their public and private school peers on standardized tests.

In contrast, the Sacramento Bee reported Friday that just three of 10 California students meet the state's language arts standards, according to test scores released Thursday. Four of 10 second-graders meet the state's new math standards, with proficiency levels dropping in most subsequent grades. At the high school level, 21 percent of 10th-graders were proficient in geometry, and 24 percent proficient in world history.

[dasboot]

'In California 90% of the children are starving and the other 90% are overweight ( according to recent CDC estimates). We only want to ensure that all our children are adequately and properly fed. Therefor we have asked the legislature to provide a law, where none exists, that requires all children to be brought to government nutrition centres for hearty Spam, Spam, and Spam.'

'We need to ensure that kids who eat at home are not subsisting on bugs or Crisco, as has sometimes been the case.'

[Izzy Dunne]

--- So why don't they go after the 30+ percent of public school teachers who are uncredentialed in the field they are teaching?
Oh.
That's right.
They're in the union.
Never mind.

[Vinnie]

safe food storage and preparation equipment,

IMHO, That issue could stop almost every homeschooler.
Do you have your dishwasher set at 180 deg. ? Do you wear gloves, hairnet ?, Are your counters sterilized ?....

We will see how far the state is prepared to press the issue.

[dasboot]

This mathematically-illiterate homeschool dad's kid will graduate valedictorian from her engineering school next June. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

This kind of thing really annoys the NEA.

[Clovis_Skeptic]

bump for later

[dasboot]

Well, eventually , as far as they need to in order to purge the state of intellegent resistance to socialism: achievers will comply with the Spam edict, leave the state, or go underground. At least their not going 'Stalin' on the homeschoolers...yet.

That'll leave 'em with the seventh-lowest economy, and lots of educationally-disabled, suitable-for-gubmint-money gimme folk. They'll be just like Zimbabwe begging for international aid.....good living for bureaucrats.

I noted that the article cited 60 homeschool families in one district. That's a lot. That's a lot of money their losing. That's a lot of free minds in the making. That's a real threat to their 'civilization'.