Sniper Possibly Connected to Golf Course Shooting

Fox News | November 5, 2002 | Fox News

[Peach]

Fox News has reported that Mohammed is being investigated for a shooting in Tuscon, Arizona of a man on a golf course. As you may recall, this is right out of the AQ playbook.

[aristeides]

Jennifer Short disappeared in mid-August, did she not? Do we know where Muhammad and Malvo were then? When did they finish up their visit to family in Baton Rouge?

[Fred Mertz]

Great stuff, Sabertooth. For some reason I keep forgetting to ping you to the sniper threads. I'll try better in the future.

[aristeides]

Does Arizona have the death penalty? If it does, are 17-year-olds subject to it?

[Route66]

It is unbelievable. If this is connected, I think we are up to like 19 victims so far? Can you imagine how many unsolved crimes across the country they might wind up solving just from the arrest of these guys?

It also helps to explain just how cold and precise they seemed to be during the D.C. spree. They apparently had a lot of practice pulling the trigger on people before they got there.

[Shermy]

Some more details in this story from the Arizona Daily Star, updated this afternoon.

Tucson killing may be linked to D.C. sniper suspects, police say

[iceskater]

I believe you are correct about Jennifer Short disappearing in mid-August. I don't know about M&M's whereabouts in August. Hopefully, there is a timeline somewhere that we can be directed to.

[Sabertooth]

Gilani's Al Faqra is not just another secretive Islamic group. It is a tiny cog in the global terror network epitomised by bin Laden's Al Qaida. In the early '90s, Faqra was the killer squad of a group called the Al Kifah Center, established in Peshawar by a Palestinian fundamentalist, Sheikh Abdullah Azzam. It was Al Kifah Center, set up in the early 1980s, which gave birth to the concept of violent jihad. The movement that began from a storefront in Peshawar activated networks across the world--thousands joined the ranks to fight the war against "enemies of Islam''. Now see the link. One of Azzam's associates was a Saudi billionaire called Osama bin Laden. One of Azzam's network of front organisations was Gilani's Al Faqra. Gilani worked both for the jihadis and the ISI. He is close to Jaish leader Maulana Masood Azhar. The Taliban chief Mullah Omar had links with Gilani. Sheikh Omar is a key member of Azhar's Jaish. Azhar and Omar are class fellows. Both got money from bin Laden. Omar funnelled money to terrorists. So did Gilani. Azhar is under house arrest in Pakistan. Omar surrendered in Karachi. Gilani was freed a few days back. Richard Reid the Shoe Bomber learned his ropes in Karachi. So did a host of others who executed the WTC attack of September 11. Musharraf's ISI knew all of them. That is why they burnt down their office in Rawalpindi a few weeks ago.
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[Sacajaweau]

Mohammed visited his sister in Tucson, March 13-16 (who knows for sure??)The interesting part is that she moved to Louisiana??

Was she his "safe haven".

Just thinking about it!!

I'd sure as heck know if my brother was up to something???AND who or what was influencing him.

[TexKat]

He said Muhammad's sister has moved to New Orleans.

Did Mohammad go back with his sister to Louisianna, because there were in Louisianna June, July, and August according to his family and a Health Store owner or manager.

[EnquiringMind]

Thanks for the ping, Peach.

Golf Course? I hope this story doesn't fall off the face of the earth - this is big news.

[Peach]

You're welcome. It is big news and Fox and CNN have already reported it. Once a final determination is made, if there is a connection, we're sure to hear all about it. Although, considering we're not talking about white guys being the shooters, perhaps not!

[TexKat]

March 06 2002 - Muhammad misses his shoplifting court date and forfeits his $900 bail. A warrant is issued for his arrest, valid until the year 2010.

Mar 25 2002 - A credit card is stolen from the purse of a a greyhound bus driver while she drives between Nogles and Flagstaff Arizona. This card gets used in Tacoma ~ april 9th.

about April 09 2002 - This card is used to buy gas in Tacoma, and later in October is used by Muhammad and Malvo to try to electronically transfer a $10 Million dollar ransom out of the country, using foreign accomplices probably in Antigua. Credit card company notifies card-owner on April 11th.

May, June and July 2002 - Muhammad and Malvo live full-time during these months with the man who loans them guns. NOTE: He says Muhammad lives in Washington state with him thru much of July (he did not leave WA for good in June).

Between May 1 - May 4, 2002 - Muhammad or Malvo fire at least two shots into the holy shrine of the Tacoma Jewish Synagogue with another borrowed gun. No one is injured.

June 01 2002 (or the morning of June 02) - A break-in occurred at the Tacoma INS. Stolen were: at least five INS stamps, including an admission stamp, and one that allows refugees to enter the US and apply for resident alien status, an INS badge, an assortment of official forms. a laptop computer, a .40-caliber pistol and two clips of ammunition,

July 20 2002 - A .22 caliber Magnum handgun was stolen at a gun show in El Paso, Texas. This gun is later confirmed used by Muhammad/Malvo and/or a 3rd accomplice in the Montgomery AL killing on September 21.

About late July 2002 -Muhammad and Malvo arrived by bus in Baton Rouge dirty, hungry and haggard. Muhammad appeared dangerously delusion according to his cousin - Anderson, whom he showed his duffel bag containing a rifle.

late august 2002 - Tacoma, Wash. - Late THIS summer, just before school started, John Muhammad and Lee Malvo showed up at Todd Paulson's auto repair shop in Tacoma, Wash., Muhammad wanted to buy a 1965 white Lincoln Continental in good condition. Muhammad seemed interested in only one thing. "He wanted to know how big the trunk was" For three days, Muhammad and Malvo dropped by but, at $2,500, finally concluded the car was out of reach. Within days, they would choose a car on the other side of the country for $250 and convert its big trunk into a sniper's lair.

[aristeides]

Thanks. Mid-August (when Jennifer Short was abducted) looks unaccounted for.

[TexKat]

Sabrtooth, I am sure you have read this, but here is some more reading for anyone else that is interested.

http://www.unansweredquestions.org/timeline/1990s/independent110198.html

[testforecho]

At some point, the media will have to start comparing what these two did and the captured Al Qaeda tapes:

Random civlian assasinations: check
Golf course assasination: check, although they skipped the RPG
Use of mobile shooting platform: check

see: this thread

An al-Qaida training videotape, captured in Afghanistan, shows Osama bin Laden's terrorists are not only planning attacks with weapons of mass destruction but are preparing to kill Americans with drive-by shootings and home break-ins, through ambushes of law-enforcement officers and targeted assassinations on golf courses, WorldNetDaily has learned.

using pickup trucks with shooters concealed in the bed of the trucks; using motorcycles as a shooting platform for drive-bys and assassinations; execution of prisoners; ambushes of law-enforcement officers; residential assassinations; assassination on a golf course using a rocket-propelled grenade and rifle fire; drive-up kidnapping of target walking on a street; use of tunnels, storm drains and sewers for infiltration during urban raids; rappelling from rooftops of buildings to make entry on upper floors; use of motorcycles for grenade attacks; and raids on buildings with large numbers of occupants – perhaps schools or office buildings. Analysts point out that all scenarios involving prisoners and hostages ended in execution.

[JudyB1938]

You are an excellent contributor to FR. Thanks.

[cherry]

I am not positive on the SW murders....I could have very well been reading about them from somewhere but perhaps it happened at a differant time....

the Shorts were murdered with a 22....now I don't know if it was a long rifle type or a handgun....but I do know it was a senseless murder....there apparently was money laying around....and I do know that it is somewhat in the corridor between Louisiana and Wash. DC

I just hope they check out all these killings.....

[TexKat]

Thanks to you JudyB1938.

[TexKat]

To date, the United States and its allies have captured al Qaeda fighters from no fewer than 33 countries, including Australia, Belgium, and Sweden. Only two "American Taliban" are in custody: Lindh and Yasser Esam Hamdi, a Baton Rouge-born 22-year-old who spent most of his life in Saudi Arabia. But some counterterrorism officials are convinced dozens more remain active, including several who may play key roles within bin Laden's network. Their trails are difficult to track; dual citizenship and false passports are common, and they typically have Arabic names, either given or adopted, with multiple spellings