[dalereed]

Having been signed to 5 labor contracts for over 40 years and served on the joint apprenticeship committee of the plasters and the joint adjustments board of the carpenters for many years my experience is that they are basicly socialists.

Many of the rank and file members aren't but they belong because of necesity to work but those that get elected to run the unions are socialists.

The current head of the International Carpenters which I served with was a BA for #1506 in Los Angeles, a nice enough guy and intelegent but a hard left democrat just the same.

[concerned about politics]

I don't understand why anyone would vote Democrat, i.e., Marxist/Socialist.
The Socialists use the "useful idiots" to get into power.
Once the Socialist come to their complete power, they no longer find the "useful idiots" useful. The "poor" become a burden on the rest of society, and are the first to be eliminated as "useless eaters."
The "poor" who vote Democrat because the Democrats say they're "for the little guy" are actually voting for their own demise.
That must be why the socialist public schools no longer teach history. The "useful idiots" are still useful - for now.
Give the Democrats a few years, and not only will poor minority black babies be abored by the millions like they are now, but the poorer elderly will be euthinized for the good of the whole.
Allow a few more Marxist presidents, and the poor are as good as dead. In the "perfect Marxist society", they're a plague.

[chilepepper]

Unions are not always hard left. I mean, folks don't remember the Union that started the fall of the Soviet Communist Bloc!

S O L I D A R N O S C!

S O L I D A R N O S C!

S O L I D A R N O S C!

[nicollo]

re. unions

The problem with unions comes of State-derived exceptions from normal trade law and other State-sponsored privileges. Woodrow Wilson started it all by excempting Unions and farmers' syndicates from anti-trust law. On it goes into FDR's National Recover Act and all its government-ordered nonsense about hiring, wages, and production rules.

These days, the Unions don't support the DNC because it hurts them.

Basically, unions operate like baseball players, and Big Business operates like MLB owners: everyone's secure in a government-alloted monopoly, and the game is to fight it out within it. They've all bought into it, and have no interest in changing things.

Now, I have no problem with baseball...