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To: VadeRetro
I SAID: It does not matter if one believes evolution as Asimov presents it; or in creationism as all christians believe. What matters is neither concept should be taught in schools - it serves no purpose other than to cause derision.

YOU SAID: It's actually quite useful for people who are going to follow or perhaps even work in science. I cannot imagine not teaching evolution to anyone who intends to understand the world as it is.

I SAY RESPECTFULLY: Evolution is not proven science. People who want to work in the sciences have no need for the philosophy of evolution that science tries to proove (and can't)

I SAID: When schools teach evolution, they are denying religious freedom to the children of christian families.

YOU SAID: You mean creationist families. I don't know how you resolve the freedom issue, but God should not require people to deny reality. For sure, we should not be dumbing down the schools because creationists want to raise misinformed kids. Creationists actually undercut your religious freedom argument by teaching their kids plenty about evolution, but nothing true. Not what it really says or how it really works or what the evidence for it really is. You're really saying that the subject should be omitted from schools, denying all kids an education in that area, so creationists can lie to their kids without contradiction.

I RESPECTFULLY REPLY: OK "creationist families" is a better term because all families that believe in a creator are not necessarily christian. It can't be proven that Creationists are lying to their children anymore than evolution can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

If evolution is taught without being fully proven, then equal time should be given to creationists. Both or neither! That was my only point.

Thanks
1,169 posted on 02/28/2003 2:21:34 PM PST by Roughneck (Saddam: I Laugh upon your shirt, HA!)
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To: Roughneck
all families that believe in a creator are not necessarily christian.

More importantly, believing in a Creator does not mean belief in creationism.

1,170 posted on 02/28/2003 2:23:59 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Roughneck
Evolution is not proven science.

There is no "proven science." Evolution is on a sound basis according with known fact and serves a purpose beyond derision, or whatever the heck you said it serves.

It can't be proven that Creationists are lying to their children anymore than evolution can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Proof is for geometry class. Creationism isn't science. Evolution is.

1,171 posted on 02/28/2003 2:35:51 PM PST by VadeRetro
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