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"We are forced to give this information to the government in the first place...."

That is true as long as we cling to the notion of taxing income. It is one of the greatest abuses of our constitutional rights that we have acquiesced to. This is just another of many reasons to scrap the whole 85+ year old failed experiment and go with a National Retail Sales Tax.

BTW, the Flat Tax is still a tax on income and it therefore retains all of the aforementioned problems.

national retail sales tax ideas don't live up to the steep limits the U.S. Constitution puts on Congress to collect such a tax. same with the flat tax some pols like to talk up. the pols must be dumb and dumber, or totally deceptive with such banter. treasury dept lawyers who specialize in section 861 of the irs regulations know better and that's why you ain't never gonna see any of this.

in fact, treasury dept lawyers who know section 861, know deep down that most Americans whose income is domestic only, the irs code doesn't apply!! only if there is foreign income, part foreign and part domestic income, you are a legal (or for that matter, illegal) alien, or you live in a self-governing commonwealth like puerto rico, do American citizens owe ANY federal income tax.

again, the treasury dept's own irs laywers, especially the ones that specialize in irs code section 861, know the truth, and they should be held to the ethical, moral and legal requirements of their legal profession to tell American citizens the truth. but they remain silent, having millions of citizens pay into something the LAW says they don't owe! and the associated regulations were written by the treasury dept.'s own lawyers and have remained truthful for over 80 years -- even though much, much legalese has been used to hide the truth -- it's still there -- it is the law!!

you can write the following treasury dept lawyer who does specialize in section 861 at --

Barbara Felker, Chief, Branch 3
Office of Associate Chief Counsel (International)
1111 Constitution Avenue NW
CC:INTL:B03/Rm 4555
Washington, DC 20224

ask her these four questions and make sure you sent it certified so she can't claim to have not received it. even though in the irs mission statement they are to (my paraphrase) "help Americans understand the tax laws", she remains completely slient on this crucial issue. she knows the truth and won't live up to her oath of office.

here's the four essentials every citizen has a right to know the irs answers to --

1) Who should and who (if anyone) should not use the rules in 26 USC §861(b) and the related regulations beginning at 26 CFR § 1.861-8 (in addition to any other pertinent sections) to determine his taxable domestic income?

2) If a U.S. citizen lives and works exclusively within the 50 states, and receives all of his income from within the 50 states, do 26 USC § 861(b) and 26 CFR § 1.861-8 show such income to be taxable?

3) Should one refer to 26 CFR § 1.861-8T(d)(2) to determine whether the “items” of income he receives (e.g. compensation, interest, rents) are excluded for federal income tax purposes?

4) What is the purpose of the list of non-exempt income in 26 CFR §1.861-8T(d)(2)(iii), and why is the domestic income of the average American not on that list?

the irs code and associate regulations are completely valid and constitutional, it's just the fraudulent mis-representation and mis-application of the laws that are already on the books!!

yep, we've been suckered for over 80 years by a crooked system that has been able to hide the truth in the legalese that complicates the public's understanding.

fornunately for us, the internet has leveled the playing field, and more and more people are studying the written irs statutes and regulations and discovering the truth.

see www. taxableincome.net for a fuller discussion or www.theft-by-deception.com if you want to see the connection between irs statutes, regulations and the Constitution in a fabulous truthful video.

p.s. i have absolutely nothing to do with the wonderful, graphical, easy-to-understand, educational $20 video available for those interested in finding out the truth of this most important matter at www.theft-by-deception.com.