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Convicted conscientious objector to seek reduced sentence
Marine Corps Times ^ | September 08, 2003 | Doug Simpson

Posted on 09/08/2003 5:41:00 PM PDT by Ed Straker

September 08, 2003

Convicted conscientious objector to seek reduced sentence

By Doug Simpson

Associated Press

NEW ORLEANS — A Marine reservist convicted of leaving his unit for 47 days without permission will formally request that his six-month prison sentence be reduced, his lawyer said Sunday.

Steve Collier, lawyer for Lance Cpl. Stephen Funk, also said another part of the sentence is too severe: a bad conduct discharge, which means Funk will lose all his military benefits. Collier said he will request that Funk receive a normal discharge and a prison term of 47 days.

"It would not be unheard of for that to be the punishment in a typical unauthorized absence case," Collier said.

A jury of four Marines found Funk guilty of unauthorized absence and innocent of a more serious charge: desertion with intent to shirk important duty. Along with the prison term and discharge, they also recommended that he be demoted to private, the Marines' lowest rank, and his pay be docked by two-thirds during his incarceration.

Collier said he will submit a formal clemency request to Lt. Gen. Dennis M. McCarthy, commander of the Marine reserves, who has authority to accept or reduce the sentence.

Funk was held in the New Orleans jail Sunday and would likely be transported to a military prison on Monday, Collier said. The prison has not been determined, the Marines said.

Funk will receive his discharge when he's released from prison.

Marine prosecutors accused Funk, 21, of being absent while his San Jose, Calif.-based unit was mobilized Feb. 13 to load ships and cargo planes bound for the Middle East.

Funk said he became a conscientious objector after months of being trained to kill. Funk, who attended anti-war rallies while absent and later announced he was gay, argued that he did not believe he would be ordered to San Diego because those who declare themselves conscientious objectors are usually separated from their unit. If so, he argued, then he would not have had to perform the "important duty."

Marine prosecutors argued that during wartime, any presidential order to report for duty is important.

There were 27 other Marines who declared themselves conscientious objectors to the Iraq war. Like Funk, all were transferred to New Orleans for processing but none of the others were prosecuted because they reported for duty on time, the Marines said.

Of the 27, 16 were granted conscientious objector status, Capt. Jeffrey Pool, a Marine spokesman, said Sunday. Five were denied and the other cases are pending.

Pool said a Marine should know that during an absence of fewer than 30 days cannot be deemed desertion or punished with jail time. Those who return within 30 days face nonjudicial punishment instead of a special court-martial, as Funk did, Pool said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: courtmartial

1 posted on 09/08/2003 5:41:01 PM PDT by Ed Straker
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To: Ed Straker
Six months and a BCD seems plenty fair to me.
2 posted on 09/08/2003 5:44:52 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Ed Straker
The prison has not been determined, the Marines said.


Let him serve his time in Gitmo. Idiot!

What the hell does anyone enlist in the Marines for? The education? Get real!

I entered the Marines at 17 and would have gladly accepted orders to go into combat for my country. He is a stain on the colors and tradition of the Corps and deserves serving his full sentence, imo.

3 posted on 09/08/2003 5:48:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi... "I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts." – Will Rogers)
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To: Non-Sequitur
He got what we used to refer to as "six, six, and a kick". He should consider himself lucky just to get a BCD out of the desl, and stop whining!
4 posted on 09/08/2003 5:51:10 PM PDT by CapnMcK
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To: Ed Straker
Stupid question time, why would he be paid anything while he's in prison?
5 posted on 09/08/2003 5:56:29 PM PDT by Springman (No Kobe, none of the time.)
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To: facedown
The whiner.
6 posted on 09/08/2003 5:57:37 PM PDT by sistergoldenhair (Don't be a sheep. People hate sheep. They eat sheep.)
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To: Springman
Stupid question time, why would he be paid anything while he's in prison?

The court was merciful. They could have removed all of his pay.

Maybe he's married and has an allotment for support of dependents, I dunno.

Give him some brig time to make it plain that there are consequences, shove a bad conduct discharge up his bilge pipe, and throw him out the front gate.

He is unworthy to be called Marine.

7 posted on 09/08/2003 6:01:33 PM PDT by LibKill (Will club baby seals for the heck of it.)
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To: Ed Straker
Having my husband in Iraq, this so-called punishment is too lenient....my husband will be in Iraq a year...let Funk do a year in Leavenworth for being a coward.
8 posted on 09/08/2003 6:09:28 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Happy Birthday, Mike...wish you were here.)
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To: Ed Straker
Evan as a Vet, I have a small degree of sympahty to conscious objectors. But that ends on the day they enlist in any service. He should have gotten as severe a sentance as military justice allows, seeing as how he wasted our time and effort training him by enlisting in an elite service.
9 posted on 09/08/2003 6:14:41 PM PDT by templar
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To: Non-Sequitur
More than fair.
10 posted on 09/08/2003 6:17:52 PM PDT by livius
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To: Ed Straker
He's a gay Marine who suddenly decided he's a pacifist when called upon to fight. He complains that even other gay soldiers call him a traitor. And they're RIGHT! He went AWOL for crying out loud.

He broke the rules and wants special dispensation rather than paying the price, cause the ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLS are too harsh and he's SEEEEEEEEEEEENSITIIIIIIIIIVE.

11 posted on 09/08/2003 6:23:05 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: templar
He went AWOL and immersed himself in the antiwar parties for 47 days rather than identify himself as a conscientious ojjector immediately, like the rest did.

He deserves no sympathy.

12 posted on 09/08/2003 6:30:14 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: templar
There is such a thing as someone with a family background in a conscientious objector tradition. Amish, Mennonite, Quaker, Jehovah's Witness, and a few others are traditional Conscientious Objectors.

The military allows that those beliefs they were trained in might legitimately surface AFTER they've enlisted. Generally, they allow them to get out.

I don't believe this guy because he played 2 aces instead of the one. He pulled a conscientious objector stunt AND thought he was throwing trump on it by simultaneously playing the "I'm gay" card.

The 2 combine to convince me that he just wanted out and wanted out fast for personal, selfish reasons.

13 posted on 09/08/2003 6:43:58 PM PDT by xzins (In the beginning was the Word.)
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To: Ed Straker
Only 6 months? Geez!
I don't know what it costs now, but 25 years ago it cost 50K just to train me to do my job in the service. I'm sure it's much more than that, now.

First off, he was a deserter (AWOL > 30 days). Secondly, he violated a lawful order (in war-time, that can get you shot). Not to mention, the bastage took an oath. An oath to "obey the orders of those appointed over" him.

Let the lying, pacisfist traitor rot in a cell until that 2/3 pay forfeiture compensates the government for his training costs.
14 posted on 09/08/2003 6:54:26 PM PDT by freep_toad
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To: Ed Straker
Steve Collier, lawyer for Lance Cpl. Stephen Funk, also said another part of the sentence is too severe: a bad conduct discharge, which means Funk will lose all his military benefits. Collier said he will request that Funk receive a normal discharge and a prison term of 47 days.

Stupid freaker was AWOL for 47 days, won't fight for his country and STILL wants his military benefits? Dum bass got off easy, he should be doing multiple years!

15 posted on 09/08/2003 6:59:23 PM PDT by Greeblie (Apatheist since 1962...)
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To: mystery-ak
Amen
16 posted on 09/08/2003 7:14:35 PM PDT by Milligan (.)
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To: Ed Straker
Put him in a locked room with about 20 new recruits! What's left can mebbe get fewer than 6 months.
17 posted on 09/08/2003 7:16:31 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism: A failure every time it is tried!)
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To: sistergoldenhair
His lawyer belongs to this bunch:

National Lawyers Guild Military Law Task Force

Militarization

In a free and democratic society, the military protects the nation against foreign enemies and assists it domestically during emergencies. In an oligarchy or dictatorship, the military is transformed from an institution that serves its citizens into one that controls them. Indications of problematic militarization are:

· When an inordinate percent of a nation's wealth is directed away from the citizenry and its social needs, and into a military/industrial clique that saps the wealth of the nation;

· When foreign wars and incursions serve the interests of corporate wealth, and not the national well-being;

· When participation in the military becomes an unwarranted burden, and youth are coerced, forced, and manipulated to serve in institutions that do not serve their interests;

· And, when the military itself carries such influence with political/corporate leaders that the very decision-making process of democracy is threatened.

When these four conditions become the norm, rather than the exception, the citizenry of a country become servants to its own government. The Military Law Task Force monitors these aspects of military life and involvement, creates programs to counter unnecessary militiaristic involvement, and reports its finding to the National Lawyers Guild and the nation.

18 posted on 09/08/2003 7:25:43 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: xzins; RaceBannon; gunnyg; LiteKeeper
This punk is a selfish little creep. My cousin was raised by a beatnik mom and for sure she did not want her ONLY son from her marriage to my uncle (KIA WW2) in combat. He turned 21 and joined the Marines. He served his term of service with a lovely tour in Vietnam on a hilltop with missiles and was Honorably Discharged. He went off the rails a bit afterwards (lived in bezerkeley for no reason I can fathom) but was and IS a proud Marine. Gitmo is too good for Funk the Fairy
19 posted on 09/08/2003 8:26:00 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: cake_crumb
"I___________,do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders officers appointed over me, accordly to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

A Pacifist he discovered.....

I think it would be fair punishment to send him to the Peace Corp for his enlistment. It's only fair. He's an idealistic young man. He should be sent to Iraq for four years and put those ideals into practice.

Let's be realistic, he wanted to get out of a bad situation. He's a selfish man. I quess oath taking means nothing in today's world.
20 posted on 09/09/2003 7:09:55 AM PDT by Milligan (Look at -USA Patriot Act offers greater protection to all- article.)
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