Posted on 03/27/2002 10:38:26 AM PST by malakhi
I've reviewed the critiques and suggestions from Thread 2, have incorporated those I could, and have come up with the following Topic list. One point that was questioned by a number of people were the names of the Denominational Topics categories. I have tried to stay with names that are in common use, and/or are preferred by members of those groups. If you suggested a change here and I did not put it in place, that is probably why.
What I would like to do is to have all interested parties vote a straight up or down on the topics as they stand. If over half of the voters oppose the present list, then we'll reopen it for further changes. If the majority is in favor of the present list, then this is what we'll go with. Keep in mind that additions to the list are always possible down the road.
I will be offline from sunset tonight until Saturday night for the first two days of Passover and then for Shabbat. That will give everyone a chance to weigh in and vote. I'll tally the votes Saturday night, and let Jim Robinson know the results.
Thanks for your participation and the many great suggestions!
General Topics
Activism Opportunities to make your voice heard. Apologetics Defense of doctrine. Current Events Religion or religion-related news of the day. Ecumenism Pertaining to discussion, cooperation and understanding among denominations. History History of religion, religion and secular history, tradition, sacred texts. Humor If at first you don't succeed, don't skydive. Ministry/Outreach Pastoral issues, proselytization, missions. Moral Issues Abortion, divorce, sexuality, social justice, ethics. Prayer Requests for prayer, articles about prayer, spirituality. Religion & Culture Religious critique of secular culture, influence of religion on culture. Religion & Politics Church/state issues, legislation, court cases, 1st amendment, the political process. Religion & Science Creation, evolution, ethical issues posed by scientific advances. Theology Nature of God and religious truth, rational inquiry into religious questions. Worship Methods of worship, liturgy, communal prayer.
Denominational Topics This is not intended to be a complete list, but rather to indicate broad categories. Catholic Latin rite, Eastern rites. Charismatic Christian Assemblies of God, pentacostalism, charismatic movement. Eastern Religions Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Taoism. Evangelical Christian Baptist, sola scriptura, non-denominational, independent fundamentalist Bible believers. Islam Sunni, Shiite, Sufism, Wahhabism. Judaism Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist, Karaite. Mainline Protestant Anglican, Episcopalian, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, Unitarian, UCC. Orthodox Christian Greek, Russian, Armenian, Antiochian etc. Other Christian 7th Day Adventist, Churches of God, Messianic Christians, LDS, etc. Other non-Christian Baha'i, Zoroastrianism, animism, Wicca, etc. Skeptics/Seekers Agnosticism, atheism, secular humanism, etc.
Luke 18:9 ff
The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector
9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable: 10 "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men--robbers, evildoers, adulterers--or even like this tax collector. 12I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'
13"But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.'
14"I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
Want to give the scripture on that codie??
Terry holds up her hands in celebration for a Correct answer!:>))
You are right codie, I am waiting for the clergy to figure out an answer to that question before I make my point on that
As a little Catholic girl I learned "God made me to know Him,Love Him and serve Him in this world and the next" (Baltimore Cat.)
So you as the only one with the courage to answer that and to have a correct answer win the prize *grin*
Thank you for calling my post childish and non-Scriptural thereby showing you really aren't up to the kind of discussion you would like to have with me. Good will and respect are essential, but I imagine you really can't see the harm you do, and sadly you have folks like Dan egging you on to higher and higher feats of assault on fellow Christians.
God made us for HIs purposes and the mind of man cannot fully comprehend His ways or His thoughts, but he shows us that we were created for blessing not cursing, that we were fashioned to adore him and enter into true worship of him, and that we were to enjoy him forever not as slaves but as friends through his Son Jesus Christ.
Come back to the Catholic Church, Terry. Your rebellion against Christ and his Church is leading you into a land that is waste. Come back to the Feast of Jesus Christ spread for you with all its fulness and joy in the Catholic Church. Come back to the truth and joy of Jesus. Though the time is late, it is not yet too late for you. Come home.
Oh,I bet I know.The very same thing that has caused some very valuable exchanges specific to certain issues to be removed. I was so furious that I thought thoughts that were so nasty I doubted my own commitment to the Trinitarian God. Did a group of busy bodies insinuate themselves in discussions and slyly change the topic to one of their liking?
I've been meandering around the cyber world trying to find people of like mind,who see the current crisis in the Church as an oppurtunity to cleanse it so that it will conform itself with the plan of the Father to bring all of His creation back home. For that purpose He sent His Son who established a visible Church to assure the gates of Heaven would be opened to all who sought Him.
And,who also see the timing of the crisis as a work of Divine Providence coinciding perfectly with another grand attempt of men to overthrow God and set up a kingdom where "important elite men"could take the reins and reign over all of us poor dummies. It has long been a tenet of profound thinkers that people who give their allegience to God could not be enslaved.Consequently plans to enslave men were often thwarted by those who were "true believers". Well,the new "elite" came up against the same brick wall that met their predessesors in past attempts. Recognizing that the Church could not be destroyed from without especially after WWI they been infiltrating the largest and most dangerous foe,the Roman Catholic Church. Their earlier groundwork has come to fruition and all of the corruption and perversion has come to light. This is good.
Now we who believe God put each of us here for a purpose need to work on,how what at first sight,appears to be a death blow can be turned into a new life for Christianity and Western Civilization.I really think that those who so cavalierly break into a thread and bestow their opinions which are off point need to set up their own thread. They could call it "Aren't Catholics Sinners",or whatever they want just don't disrupt serious discussions by people who have a different world view than they do and are trying to prevent a take over by folks who don't like us and will swat them off like flies once they destroy us. If they thought we were interested and searching for salvation that would be different but that is not their objective. Instead they just make many of us aghast at their rudeness and lack of common courtesy.
The foregoing is only my opinion based on observing the world God made. I certainly hope the people who will monitor the thread will prohibit disrupting, without it being necessary to kill the thread.It is hard to wade through their babble to get to the substance. Thanks Angelo,I don't envy you. Ugh,I've tried to deal with 5 points under one subject<I hope you can untangle some of this.Bottom line.FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET RID OF DISRUPTORS WITHOUT KILLING THREADS BUT GET RID OF THESE RUDE,OBNOXIOUS DISRUPTORS.
You think God is as selfish as some human beings are. Sorry. God likes to share his stuff with his kids.
This is not an assault.That is loaded language.. I have asked questions. Not much else.. I asked you Why God made man..What is the chief end of man?
Don't live in denial. Come home to the Catholic Church. Come home to the fulness of Jesus Christ Our Lord.
Do you know what your chief end is?
Oh yes.
Why are you reluctant to give the answer?
I'm not reluctant to give answers to these questions when they are asked by someone of good will.
Come back to the Church. We all are waiting for you with open arms.
This is the address of the novena on EWTN: http://www.ewtn.com/Devotionals/mercy/novena.htm
Is there two sets of rules at work here? One for you guys and one for the rest of us?
So only those that have agreement with you can hear the answers that agree with you?? That is silly nonsense.You know the answer to those questions directly impact your belief on what Mary and the Saints do in heaven and what their role is..so you "choose " not to answer
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