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To: r9etb
Well, here's a guy who uses a lot of words to say remarkably little. Worse, he avoids the real question: On what basis does a church say "no" to this, and "yes" to that, without falling prey to the Pharisaical dangers he's warning us about? He doesn't really tell us anything that helps us address it.

Well, I must disagree. I think he does sum up the issue nicely. A Christian does not need a list of do's and don'ts, he needs to learn the words of God (see the articles posted 'Up With Preaching' and 'Return to the Bible')

The list of 'do's and don'ts are good for babes who do not know any better, but one needs to grow out of that stage and see why things are wrong and get to the root of the issue.

Scripture emphasizes the need of Love in everything the Christian does (1Cor.13) and Faith (Rom.14:23). The mature Christian must always be asking if what he is doing has both those elements.

'Pharisees' do neither.

15 posted on 04/02/2002 11:24:26 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: fortheDeclaration
Scripture emphasizes the need of Love in everything the Christian does (1Cor.13) and Faith (Rom.14:23). The mature Christian must always be asking if what he is doing has both those elements.

Well and good. But from the perspective of a church, love and faith are the means by which one discerns a "yes" or a "no." Thus, Paul can preach faith and love in one place, and cast certain factions or people out of the church in no uncertain terms.

As a practical example, suppose that representative of some activist group -- the homosexual agenda folks are very active these days, as are the labyrinth crowd -- come into your church and begin agitating for their particular agenda.

The primary purpose of Churches is to safeguard and propagate Right Teaching, and to protect church doctrine. It implies not just faith and love, but also a set of rules to which the church adheres.

When confronted by activists, your church will have to say either yes or no. The question is: how does a church walk the fine line between pharisaism on the one hand, and abject surrender on the other?

The article is strangely silent on the matter.

18 posted on 04/02/2002 11:43:57 AM PST by r9etb
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