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To: sola gracia
So what you are saying now is that God deliberately restored the Nation of Israel, not to fulfill prophecies, but to send a delusion to those pesky dispensationalilsts?

Does that mean that belief in the fulfillment of all prophecy and the parousia of Christ beginning in 70 AD is necessary for salvation? Can a dispensationalist actually be saved?

If a dispensationalist can be saved, then what purpose would there be for God to restore Israel in order to deliberately delude his Children? Does God take pleasure in that? Is Israel's existence today some kind of divine joke?

17 posted on 04/06/2002 2:49:09 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
Must we continue to have this conversation? Why do you bait the preterists here. You know where we stand. You have debated us before. You still have the burden of proof to present.

I am not saying that dispensationalists are not saved. I am saying that they are following a false teaching. They are still walking by sight and not by faith. Everything has to square with "physical" Israel. You say nothing of spiritual Israel. And there is a huge distinction between the two. The natural state is still in bondage and the spiritual one is free. Take your pick. I would rather be on God's side in this matter.

Now as to God deluding or hiding truth. Check for yourself and let me know what you think of Mark 4:10-12.

I have stated my case quite clearly. I will argue no more of this with you. I entreat you to put away your Scofield, your Walvoord, your Lindsey and Ryrie study Bibles and read Scripture only. I pray that the Spirit of our Lord will open your eyes to His truth.

18 posted on 04/06/2002 3:08:37 PM PST by sola gracia
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To: P-Marlowe, sola gracia
For another New Testament proof that after the church age God intends to restore the nation of Israel, check Acts 15:14-17 for James speaking at the Council of Jerusalem.
19 posted on 04/06/2002 3:47:33 PM PST by Woodkirk
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