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To: CCWoody;RnMomof7
"From this follows the fourth decree to save certain particular persons and to damn others, which decree rests upon the foreknowledge of God, but which he has known from eternity which persons should believe according to such an administration of the means serving to repentance and faith through his preceding grace and which should persevere through subsequent grace, and also who should not believe and persevere." -- Works, I:247-248

Here is a quote that documents Arminius' teaching that election is based upon forseen faith and perseverence.

5 posted on 04/25/2002 8:14:50 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
This dilemma in which the Arminian finds himself can be avoided in one of two ways. One is to submit to the Biblical teaching concerning God's ultimate sovereignty in election. The other choice, which is gaining a foothold in evangelicalism in our day, is to give up God's sovereignty all together and stake out the position of men such as Clark Pinnock and Greg Boyd. These men are moving in the direction of Process Theology and have openly denied that God has any foreknowledge whatsoever. They represent the modern version of the Socinians. At the point of foreknowledge, they are at least more consistent than Arminians. They deny that God has foreknowledge. God cannot know the free acts of free agents.

This is the position of alot of the Pastors in the Church of the Nazarene (including mine) My Pastor says that foreknowlege = predestination

6 posted on 04/25/2002 8:20:27 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: drstevej; RnMomof7
Here is a quote that documents Arminius' teaching that election is based upon forseen faith and perseverence.

I'm just so used to reading scripture with the understanding that foreseen faith is foreseen due to God's foreknowledge of His gift of believing and saving faith to his foreknown people that I must read Arminius' teaching without the assumption that it is entirely the work of God.

It is apparent, though, from reading the Canons of Dort that they were rebutting the teaching that the foreknowledge is of our actions toward Him and not His actions towards us. It is also aparent that todays Arminians are "super-Arminians" in that they continue to walk down the path that Arminius opened towards its logical end.

11 posted on 04/26/2002 6:28:57 AM PDT by CCWoody
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