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To: Jerry_M
"The point I was trying to make was that we have the free will to accept or deny God. "
And what would you say if I told you that I agree with this statement?

Welcome to the party? :-)

We do have the "freewill" to accept or deny God. We are free to do exactly as we want in this regard. However, none of us will ever choose to accept Him, or do any act pleasing to Him, except that He first give us new hearts that want to do so. There are none righteous, no not one, there are none who seek Him. We need to be born again.

Yes and no. At some point we have to say "I choose to follow your will, not my will God." God can sit there all day and night drawing us toward him, but as long as we resist, we resist. We need to give up self-determination and submit to God. At that point, God can begin to work his work in us.

172 posted on 05/07/2002 7:54:02 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Yes and no. At some point we have to say "I choose to follow your will, not my will God." God can sit there all day and night drawing us toward him, but as long as we resist, we resist

Does that mean you are stronger and have more power than God?

177 posted on 05/07/2002 8:03:13 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: DouglasKC
" We need to give up self-determination and submit to God."

How will we ever do that in light of the Scriptures I presented in 169?

While I agree with you that you have described what man needs to do, how will he do it unless he is "born again", unless he is given a new heart by God's Holy Spirit? Then, and only then, will he do as Jesus commands, which is If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. (Luke 9:23)

178 posted on 05/07/2002 8:04:39 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: DouglasKC
Yes and no. At some point we have to say "I choose to follow your will, not my will God." God can sit there all day and night drawing us toward him, but as long as we resist, we resist. We need to give up self-determination and submit to God. At that point, God can begin to work his work in us.

Sounds to me like YOU have the power, God doesn't have enough power to break your resistance. Think it through again. Do you have power over God?

261 posted on 05/08/2002 12:52:44 AM PDT by irishtenor
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