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To: rmlew
I daresay that the majority of Israelis are not actively in favor of transfer as a policy - but usually the majority of a population is not consulted. These things are foisted on them by elites. The "they" whom I referred to are a group of military/political types around Sharon. As to whether it is possible - as you say, there are millions of Israelis already. But to totally empty cities like Jerico, Bethlehem and Nablus would leave the land devestated and empty-looking. It could only be accomplished in the context of a regional war. The worst possible outcome. If the Israelis wanted to expell the population they should have done it in the first instance (in 1967). Or it should be a fair and honourable settlement. In recent years, it was suggested that in exchange for lifting the sanctions on Iraq, they could be persuaded to take much of the Arab population of the West Bank and Gaza, who would be paid large sums in order to relocate. Although that idea sounds odd, it is better thinking than some "push them over the Jordan" option.

But the desire to be rid of the Palestinians, for good and for all, puts people in realm of evil dreams. It was an idea running at the time of Lebanon invasion, when the Israelis fell into an alliance with the Phalangists. It is the notion of wiping them out, never seeing them again ... and with this comes talk of purification of the race, elimination of the inferior, wiping out those of mixed blood. The Israelis have some extremist allies in the Christian communties, just look at comment 26 on this very thread:

"The mixed mongrel people Arafat represents and rules are ARABS, not Pleshtim, thus Semite/Hamite mixed, .... and it is highly ironic that when his group of mixties ... they took the name of an ancient people the Jews had exterminated... The fate of that end-time people is given, and it is one they well deserve and which we are eagerly awaiting."posted on 5/5/02 10:49 PM Pacific by crystalk

186 posted on 05/09/2002 6:40:07 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil
I daresay that the majority of Israelis are not actively in favor of transfer as a policy - but usually the majority of a population is not consulted. These things are foisted on them by elites.

Would this be the same elites who made Meir Kahane's PArty illegal? Would it be the same elites who are pushing affirmative action for Israeli Arabs? Is it the same elite which has been trying to shut down right-wing and settler radio stations? I don't think so. The elite in Israel is made up of leftist Ashkenazis.

The "they" whom I referred to are a group of military/political types around Sharon. As to whether it is possible - as you say, there are millions of Israelis already. But to totally empty cities like Jerico, Bethlehem and Nablus would leave the land devestated and empty-looking.

Jericho, Bethlehem, and Nablus(Shechem) were Jewish cities and would not be empty for long.

It could only be accomplished in the context of a regional war. The worst possible outcome.
True. However, many see this conflict as inevitable.

If the Israelis wanted to expell the population they should have done it in the first instance (in 1967). Or it should be a fair and honourable settlement.

1973 was another option. However, there was no political will or mass support for it then. Somehow I don't think you would support the scheme of National-Union to expell the Arabs but compensate them for property and for the difficulties of leaving. (property value plus 20-50 thousand per Palestinian.)

In recent years, it was suggested that in exchange for lifting the sanctions on Iraq, they could be persuaded to take much of the Arab population of the West Bank and Gaza, who would be paid large sums in order to relocate. Although that idea sounds odd, it is better thinking than some "push them over the Jordan" option.

While some of the PAlestinians are decended from Iraqis who migrated between 1890 and 1946, most are not. Far more have relatives in teh sovereign Arab state composed of 75% of Palestin, Jordan.

But the desire to be rid of the Palestinians, for good and for all, puts people in realm of evil dreams.

1. The Palestinains and Jordanina expelled virtually all Jews out of Transjordan and the West bank from 1923-1950. This included 3000 year old communities and the Jewish quarter of Jerusalem.
2. Most people are calling for the Jews to be expelled from the West Bank and Gaza. Is that evil?

It was an idea running at the time of Lebanon invasion, when the Israelis fell into an alliance with the Phalangists. It is the notion of wiping them out, never seeing them again ... and with this comes talk of purification of the race, elimination of the inferior, wiping out those of mixed blood. The Israelis have some extremist allies in the Christian communties, just look at comment 26 on this very thread:

1. Israel fell in with the Phalangists because they had the same enemies, the PLO, Hizbullah, and Amal.
2.I am no apologist for the Arab haters in this forum.

188 posted on 05/09/2002 2:34:16 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: BlackVeil
I daresay that the majority of Israelis are not actively in favor of transfer as a policy - but usually the majority of a population is not consulted.

According to an October 2001 Ma'ariv poll, 50% of Israelis were in favor of transferring the Palestinians out of the West Bank and Gaza. Since the poll is seven months old now, I assume the percentage today is considerably higher.

190 posted on 05/09/2002 6:35:33 PM PDT by DentsRun
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