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To: fortheDeclaration; Xzins; Rnmomof7; Revelation 911; corin stormhands; winstonchurchill
"According to Calvinism nothing can draw a dead man anywhere!"

You really don't 'get it' do you?

We mortals have no way to know who is elect and who is not, thus your post is nonsense. - The Lord will do as he will, and if we are his tools, so be it.

The mortal mind cannot know the nature of God; you presume far too much. - Take his word at it's literal face value and you cannot go wrong.

18 posted on 05/10/2002 7:49:35 AM PDT by editor-surveyor
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To: editor-surveyor, Xzins, Revelation 911, corin stormhands, winston churchill
According to Calvinism nothing can draw a dead man anywhere!" You really don't 'get it' do you? We mortals have no way to know who is elect and who is not, thus your post is nonsense. - The Lord will do as he will, and if we are his tools, so be it.

Calvinism does not teach that unregenerate man can do anything until God regenerates him first. So, now you want to run from that dogma when it is inconvenient.

God can also allow a spiritual dead man to ask the question Sirs, what must I do to be saved

and then give the simple, straight forward answer believe in the Lord Jesus Christ

But it is the Calvinsts who deny that (1) the man actually had to do something (2) that faith preceeds regeneration. This is all based on your notion of Total inability. Asserting that a dead man cannot do anything regarding the Gospel. Now, however Spurgeon is telling us that same dead man can be now be drawn prior to regeneration.

No, I get it very well, Calvinism is pure mysticism based on philosophical speculation.

The mortal mind cannot know the nature of God; you presume far too much. - Take his word at it's literal face value and you cannot go wrong.

I do take his word at face value

Sirs, what must I do to be saved? Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved and thy household. (Acts.16:31)
I see someone asking what he must do and then being told what he must do -believe.

Now, what part of that Scripture teaches regeneration preceeds faith? In fact, which Scripture teaches that? Only your own speculations on the nature of spiritual death lead you to conclude that. You do not get it from any clear statement from scripture.

It is Calvinism that presumes too much

19 posted on 05/10/2002 3:37:20 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: editor-surveyor
From reading these threads I have come to the conclusion they do not want to get it. What they want is to tell God what to do. To bad God don't play that game!
54 posted on 05/10/2002 9:27:07 PM PDT by sitonit
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